2023 Gold Cup

[opatcho]

Envoi Allen for one of the great comebacks of all time

Crazy as it sounds, I actually fancy him for the Kkmh George. Crazy thoughts

[Captain Chris]

Envoi Allen for one of the great comebacks of all time

I can already picture it... 3 runner gold Cup of him, Protektorat and some random 145 rated handicapper

[opatcho]

I can already picture it... 3 runner gold Cup of him, Protektorat and some random 145 rated handicapper

Plus Goshen..

[Captain Chris]

Plus Goshen..

He can be the handicapper

[opatcho]

MI pulled up in the King George before going on to running well in the GC
If APT (and I know no two horses are the same) happens to follow the same, you’d expect and hope he run well next time out, maybe not winning before running a big one in March. He could be a decent place bet by then

[opatcho]

Another one to throw out there, again, trying to think about the positives, APT has pretty much needed his first run - this was the case up until last year. Has he just fallen back into his normal pattern, was last years a fluke, was he more forward, or was last years renewal a weaker renewal

[Eggs]

….not sure if it’s an excuse for any of yesterdays runners at Haydock, but I live on Merseyside and we did have continuous rain for days leading up the meeting.

[Benjy23]

Takes me back to the Kauto Star didn't like running in the rain theory

Won't be rushing to back him at 12s just yet myself but it's definitely nice to see a reasonable reaction from a bookie.

Taking APT out the race yesterday, Protektorat probably doesn't get the respect he deserves does he. Again I'm not rushing to back him to win the GC at the prices either but if I had to pick one horse to place right now he'd probably be top of the list!

[Eggs]

….GDC likely to run soon but unlikely to come over for the KG;

https://www.attheraces.com/news/2022/November/20/king-george-bid-seems-unlikely-for-galopin-des-champs

[RoadToCheltenham]

Going to put this here and in the Stayers thread - Shark Hanlon on Hewick - RP Members:

All is great with him. He's on a break with TJ [McDonald, owner] and will come back to me on January 1. We'll prepare him then for Cheltenham and he'll go without a run beforehand.

He deserves a break, even if it is only six or seven weeks, after a great year and you're only roughly ten weeks to Cheltenham when he comes back in. We can look to do a breeze or two at some of the tracks or point-to-point courses.

The Stayers' Hurdle is an option for him at Cheltenham – it's an open division and I'm not sure it's great – so I'll definitely be giving him an entry for that and the Gold Cup. We'd love to have a runner in the Gold Cup but if I thought he'd win the Stayers' Hurdle, I'd have nothing against going there either.

[Lobos]

….GDC likely to run soon but unlikely to come over for the KG;

https://www.attheraces.com/news/2022...pin-des-champs

It was never, ever going to happen was it. What a waste of owners entry money Willie, you nutter.

[charlie]

I've had to add APT @ 12/1. Every horse has their price and one of the most impressive winners in recent years at double figures is it IMO.

[Lobos]

I've had to add APT @ 12/1. Every horse has their price and one of the most impressive winners in recent years at double figures is it IMO.

Agree. EW has to be the bet at that price. Mahoosive. Will stick him in a few EW doubles with the other obvious value bets.

[Exar Essay]

I've had to add APT @ 12/1. Every horse has their price and one of the most impressive winners in recent years at double figures is it IMO.

365 into 9/1 now (still best price). Must've taken a fair but at 12s.

[BookieBasher]

12/1 on APT (Bet365) all gone. Into 9s