2023 Gold Cup

[Faugheen_Machine]

1st, 2nd, 1st, 2nd,…. Only one outcome in the Gold Cup this year isn’t there! Great price for a horse being aimed at the race who loves it at Cheltenham and has won it before. Plus the limited campaign like ABP

Get Jack Kennedy in the saddle and it's a done deal.....

[Winging The Last]

Get Jack Kennedy in the saddle and it's a done deal.....

Spot on!!!

[ComplyOrDie]

Exactly that. Someone put him up on a podcast earlier in the week and I was nodding along.

We must have watched the same one, but I agree, 40's is a ridiculous price for a horse with the festival form he has

[Outlaw]

Had a similar conversation during the back end of summer where one firm was 50s for a while, Priced purely on age going into this year and I can see him doing what Native River did a few years ago be fighting away with a mile to go but grab a 3rd/4th. He'd be of much more interest to place top(4) later in the season a bit like a couple years back when we got a tidy price about Supasundae in a CH doing similar albeit that didn't work out.

[Lobos]

All you need is for 1 or 2 of them at the top of the market to not make it there, which will very likely happen, and he'd have every chance of at least placing again.

[Exar Essay]

He really is a class horse, but I think there is something in avoiding older ones. I think the last horses aged 10 or over to place in a Gold Cup were Kauto Star and Denman in 2011. That'll be 12 years ago come March.

[AaronLad]

Surely that's a better bet than 33/1 Hewick

I think the reason Hewick is shorter is simple he has a more realistic chance of winning the race.
Minella indo if he lines up will be competing in a 3rd consecutive gold cup, horses don't regain the gold cup other than Kauto star, minella indo is no Kauto.

Prior to his gold cup win minella indos highest rpr was a 170, Hewick achieved 171 falling at the last in the Kerry national. His last 3 chase rprs have been 162, 166 and 171. Hewick is 7, will be 8 if he lines up in the gold cup. Minella indo will be 10.

I don't think it's out of the question minella indo could run another good race at the festival, but I think his best days are behind him. Hewick on the other hand could still have his best days ahead and if he improves again which I think is very likely he has every chance of putting in a race winning performance.

[FinalFurlong91]

Hewick will be running in the gold Cup having never run in a proper grade 1

Think he will be completely out of his depth in the gold Cup

Would be a good story though

[nortonscoin200]

Hewick will be running in the gold Cup having never run in a proper grade 1

Think he will be completely out of his depth in the gold Cup

Would be a good story though

Love the horse and handicappers have popped up to win the GC in the past (The Thinker, Cool Ground, Norton’sCoin, Master Oats off the top of my head).

it’s been a while but maybe one’s about due.

My main problem with Hewick is the likely ground next March. He wouldn’t want any mention of soft in the ground description.

And the price now is nothing more than fair imo.

[ComplyOrDie]

Not that anyone is probably thinking about backing Envoi Allen, but seeing as they plan to start off over 3m this season I thought I'd note these quotes about him here:

"Again, he seems good and is working well, but his wind is what it is," De Bromhead said. "We did a lot of investigating and we can't see any more that we can do for him. I think it's always going to be a concern now."

Definitely one I'd be looking at leaving alone. A damn shame for him, as he looked a super talent during his novice hurdling and even early novice chasing days too.

[Lobos]

Monkfish unlikely to be ready in time for Cheltenham. Punchestown a possible.

[Faugheen_Machine]

I think the reason Hewick is shorter is simple he has a more realistic chance of winning the race.
Minella indo if he lines up will be competing in a 3rd consecutive gold cup, horses don't regain the gold cup other than Kauto star, minella indo is no Kauto.

Prior to his gold cup win minella indos highest rpr was a 170, Hewick achieved 171 falling at the last in the Kerry national. His last 3 chase rprs have been 162, 166 and 171. Hewick is 7, will be 8 if he lines up in the gold cup. Minella indo will be 10.

I don't think it's out of the question minella indo could run another good race at the festival, but I think his best days are behind him. Hewick on the other hand could still have his best days ahead and if he improves again which I think is very likely he has every chance of putting in a race winning performance.

He's two years younger but has it all to prove in grade 1s. MI deserves a bit more respect in the market that he's currently been given, imo.

[Hurricane fly]

MI 9/2 to place with Skybet as a guide

[Lobos]

Am a big fan of Ahoy Senor after last season's super first season chasing. He's just so exciting and looks to have so much scope for further improvement. Hoping that the Raw horse has now matured and grown into a very strong Gold Cup contender. A tough start in the Charlie Hall but I do think he'll win convincingly and go top of the English challengers to the Irish.

[FinalFurlong91]

Am a big fan of Ahoy Senor after last season's super first season chasing. He's just so exciting and looks to have so much scope for further improvement. Hoping that the Raw horse has now matured and grown into a very strong Gold Cup contender. A tough start in the Charlie Hall but I do think he'll win convincingly and go top of the English challengers to the Irish.

It really comes down to if his jumping has improved doesn't it

He wont get away with those mistakes at the top level in open company

If it has improved he could be very good, if it hasn't he may well struggle