2023 Gold Cup

[FinalFurlong91]

FYI he's 6/1 to go unbeaten with Sky (must run 3 times).

A dreadful price surely

I'd want double that at this stage

[charlie]

A dreadful price surely

I'd want double that at this stage

It's not a dreadful price IMO (I did take the price pre 'hiccup').

He'll probably debut over 2m5f and piss in at 1/10. We'll learn nothing.

He'll then head over 3m over Xmas or DRF and we'll learn whether or not he's a GC horse. If he wins (and I suspect he'll go off 4/7) then he'll be super short for the GC and 6/1 will look fine.

It's not a bet I've gone mad on. I'm all for treading carefully with novices stepping into open company, but I want to have some skin in the game on arguably the most exciting horse in training.

[robith]

I've gone off "unbeaten" bets after having gotten away with hugely at Cheltenham, Henry then ran Bob again for no real reason and then gave a big "whoopsie!" afterwards

[FinalFurlong91]

It's not a dreadful price IMO (I did take the price pre 'hiccup').

He'll probably debut over 2m5f and piss in at 1/10. We'll learn nothing.

He'll then head over 3m over Xmas or DRF and we'll learn whether or not he's a GC horse. If he wins (and I suspect he'll go off 4/7) then he'll be super short for the GC and 6/1 will look fine.

It's not a bet I've gone mad on. I'm all for treading carefully with novices stepping into open company, but I want to have some skin in the game on arguably the most exciting horse in training.

Can't see him going off 4/7 over Xmas taking on a plus tard and the like. If a plus tard has won at Haydock he will be fav or it'll be 6/4-7/4 joint favs.

And can't see him shorter than 2s on gold cup day unless he batters them in the savills or irish gold cup

Then he goes to punchestown probably too and likely meets a primed allaho

I'd want 12s personally this far out for potentially 4 races 3 of which are gonna be in very competitive grade 1s

Agree that he is the most exciting horse in training though

Put him in free bet doubles with delta work and flooring porter on paddy and sky this morning

Dont know why I didn't back him before Cheltenham 2022 at the time I backed facile vega Supreme and American mike ballymore and had a trixie with the 3 of them

[charlie]

Can't see him going off 4/7 over Xmas taking on a plus tard and the like. If a plus tard has won at Haydock he will be fav or it'll be 6/4-7/4 joint favs.

And can't see him shorter than 2s on gold cup day unless he batters them in the savills or irish gold cup

Then he goes to punchestown probably too and likely meets a primed allaho

I'd want 12s personally this far out for potentially 4 races 3 of which are gonna be in very competitive grade 1s

Agree that he is the most exciting horse in training though

Put him in free bet doubles with delta work and flooring porter on paddy and sky this morning

Dont know why I didn't back him before Cheltenham 2022 at the time I backed facile vega Supreme and American mike ballymore and had a trixie with the 3 of them

Yeh 4/7 is probably a stretch he'd he even money or maybe 5/4 IMO. Whether just or not he'll be chronically over bet

[Ballybeen]

Has anybody heard anything about Farouk d’Alene? I’ll admit I had a small speculative bet on him for the Gold Cup, though cashed him out for stake back when I seen he wasn’t in Gordon’s RP stable tour.

[Fouroverthrutwo]

Has anybody heard anything about Farouk d’Alene? I’ll admit I had a small speculative bet on him for the Gold Cup, though cashed him out for stake back when I seen he wasn’t in Gordon’s RP stable tour.

Check the stable tours thread that is in the members section.

[RufusFlynn]

Not sure exactly where to put this but from his Facebook page: Santini has left Polly Gundry and gone to William Fox Pitt to give eventing a try so would therefore assume he has retired from racing.

"Richard and Lizzie K-H and Polly rather felt that after last years Grand National he should try his hand at something else, and it is fantastic to have him on the yard. I was certainly very excited with how he coped with his first day at his new job"

[Lobos]

Read the RP jumps pull out and not a huge amount of confidence from 'the experts' re Galopin. Surprised that a few question his jumping and that he gets in very close to a few.

[Winging The Last]

Minella Indo to start off at Tramore in Al Boum Photos race on New Years day says HDB. With APT still on for the Betfair Chase at Haydock

[Lobos]

Minella Indo to start off at Tramore in Al Boum Photos race on New Years day says HDB. With APT still on for the Betfair Chase at Haydock

MI 40/1 for GC.

[Faugheen_Machine]

MI 40/1 for GC.

Surely that's a better bet than 33/1 Hewick

[Lobos]

Surely that's a better bet than 33/1 Hewick

Albert winner, RSA 2nd, GC winner , GC 2nd in 4 consecutive festivals is just incredible.........so yes.

[Faugheen_Machine]

Albert winner, RSA 2nd, GC winner , GC 2nd in 4 consecutive festivals is just incredible.........so yes.

Exactly that. Someone put him up on a podcast earlier in the week and I was nodding along.

[Winging The Last]

Albert winner, RSA 2nd, GC winner , GC 2nd in 4 consecutive festivals is just incredible.........so yes.

1st, 2nd, 1st, 2nd,…. Only one outcome in the Gold Cup this year isn’t there! Great price for a horse being aimed at the race who loves it at Cheltenham and has won it before. Plus the limited campaign like ABP