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2023 Stayers Hurdle

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  • Originally posted by darlojim View Post

    Latest quotes from Mullins don't sound too convincing Ista!

    "As I said at Christmas, he had a little setback the week before Leopardstown which rules him out of running in the Christmas Hurdle there. We're taking it day by day with him and we'll make a decision on his participation nearer the time"
    Thanks Jim, I was aware of that comment so maybe the whole 'better prep this year' argument goes out if the window !
    Last year just seemed poor all round, here's hoping the setback this season is overcome quickly...

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    • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post

      ​​​​​​Disagree with you here tbh. Think that's the right thing to do on an antepost market. And punters get to take the price if they want to risk it. On PP side here.
      I meant more from a selfish point off view, regarding my cash out. Everywhere else 8s? Understand 365 have it greyed out though, suppose I have at least a decision to make.

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      • Originally posted by EnvoiAlien View Post

        Can I ask when you originally posted this regarding this exchange movement,Exar.
        Thanks in advance for your reply.
        10th Jan mate

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        • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

          Yes

          Leaving him the same price when he's less likely to run would be being cheeky barstewards not making him bigger
          Oh I 100% agree, but I would be fairly confident they pushed It out to the biggest price available to screw with those in similar situation with me so we have less cash out. They wouldn't leave it same price for that reason either. Just me being selfish as 365 only pushed out to 8s.

          However, it's not a crime what they have done and if I was in their shoes probably would have played it the same way!

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          • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
            Marie's Rock 7/1 NRNB is by far the best bet following the FP news. She'd go off fav wouldn't she with 7lbs allowance.
            Think that’s a great shout Lobos. May just be tying up money, but the race is wide open.

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            • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
              As mad as it may sound I think I'd rather have Paisley Park than Teahupoo or Klassical Dream.

              I'm not convinced Teahupoo wants 3m yet, and zero evidence to suggest he'll get the trip, and we've no idea how Klassical Dream is coming along, but he finished behind PP in last seasons race and if anything Paisley Park looks to be in better nick than he was last season.
              That's why I recommended the 10s nrnb when making the case for teahupoo

              He's set to run in the galmoy, wins and proves his stamina you're on a live one. Doesnt stay and gets beat and hed be very unlikely to run and youre getting money back.

              Still think that's the case and if he does win the galmoy well I wouldn't be surprised if he was fav when the tapes drop.

              Can see home by the Lee drifting on the day as people will see elliot/Kennedy or Russell with teahupoo, mullins/townend with KD and the legend Paisley park and be backing them not home by the lee

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              • Originally posted by Magpie View Post
                I should of changed my FP bet to NRNB but greed got the better of me for 3 points more, Will I never learn.

                What’s the bet now lads?
                No different as far as I’m concerned.
                HBTL and PPark if it comes up soft.
                Would definitely fancy Marie’s as well, if she ran .

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                • Thank you,that'd make sense to what I immediately thought.

                  To explain why I asked briefly if a horse injures a leg you can't tell if it's going to be a problem or not as it'll swell & x-rays won't tell you anything at this stage,you have to wait for the swelling to go down before you can get an accurate x-ray assessment which will take anything between 4 to 7 days, that there was a drift abert minor 7 days ago someone had a sneaky lay who was either close to the yard or to someone within the yard.

                  Of course he could have another issue (Muscular,skeletal,breathing,bleeding) but all of these have different timescales so the 7 days would fit with a leg problem & with 3 weeks off given as the timescale he'd be not in training I'd nominate a cut that's blown up which was near a tendon that's substained very minor damage,I could be miles off but experience steers me away from any other type of injury.

                  This'd also mean he won't be on the horse walker until he is moving 100%,of course the horse would be pretty much race ready at this stage of the season so it wouldn't take much to have him 100% on the day,it'll just be a case of patience and a few prayers on the yard.

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                  • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post

                    10th Jan mate
                    Did you think something was up when you placed your little nibbles? I saw your originally post and then didn't see anything after so assumed you thought everything was A-OK? Was that the case and this has surprised or did you think the gig was up and act accordingly with your bets?

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                    • If you believe Twitter, Nicholls has given 3 thumbs up to gelino (assume bello) to somebody who suggested the cleave then this if it takes somebody’s fancy

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                      • Originally posted by Dandrew99 View Post

                        Only thing I'd disagree with is taking the 8/1 when you can get 13/2 (boosted) with NRNB cover, think that's a better bet.
                        Yeah can see that, and it does probably make more sense, sadly it's not an option I have...

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                        • Originally posted by EnvoiAlien View Post
                          Thank you,that'd make sense to what I immediately thought.

                          To explain why I asked briefly if a horse injures a leg you can't tell if it's going to be a problem or not as it'll swell & x-rays won't tell you anything at this stage,you have to wait for the swelling to go down before you can get an accurate x-ray assessment which will take anything between 4 to 7 days, that there was a drift abert minor 7 days ago someone had a sneaky lay who was either close to the yard or to someone within the yard.

                          Of course he could have another issue (Muscular,skeletal,breathing,bleeding) but all of these have different timescales so the 7 days would fit with a leg problem & with 3 weeks off given as the timescale he'd be not in training I'd nominate a cut that's blown up which was near a tendon that's substained very minor damage,I could be miles off but experience steers me away from any other type of injury.

                          This'd also mean he won't be on the horse walker until he is moving 100%,of course the horse would be pretty much race ready at this stage of the season so it wouldn't take much to have him 100% on the day,it'll just be a case of patience and a few prayers on the yard.
                          This speculation is up there with one of the best I've seen on the forum. And there has been many.
                          Which leg though ?

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                          • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

                            I'm struggling to understand why Klassical Dream can still be backed at 8/1.
                            Horror prep last season, looked the winner approaching the last, wasn't sharp enough and got run out of it up the hill, much better prep this season and should be fav in my book.
                            Been backing down from 25/1 and still happy to include in multis at 8/1.

                            Someone in here (can't remember who) had contacts with connections last year who thought the horse would win multiple Stayers Hurdles such was their confidence in his ability.
                            Whoever that man is please show yourself...
                            He runs best fresh and hes not going to have ran for a few months come March and WPM said he made a mistake running him in the Galmoy last year. Provided he turns up I think he just wins.

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                            • Gelino Bello going the Cleeve and Stayers it seems going by a thumbs up response from Nicholls when i tweeted him before.

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                              • Originally posted by Madmoose View Post
                                Gelino Bello going the Cleeve and Stayers it seems going by a thumbs up response from Nicholls when i tweeted him before.
                                Today's news will be a positive for him turning up as well

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