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2023 Stayers Hurdle

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  • Originally posted by Dandrew99 View Post

    He's just the best horse in the race isn't he?

    Only beaten a neck by Teahupoo over a trip too short, would be confident he would reverse that over 3 miles. Plus Teahupoo has only ran once at Cheltenham and it was awful, I'd definitely have KD a fair bit shorter than Teahupoo. Home By The Lee is probably a fair enough favourite at the minute but he wouldn't be having any of my money at 4s.

    Only thing I'd disagree with is taking the 8/1 when you can get 13/2 (boosted) with NRNB cover, think that's a better bet.
    I don't think you can be over confident Teahuoo doesn't like the track based off one run. Admittedly he did run an absolute stinker but he was no better at Punchestown either. On quicker ground I just think he got left behind. In the Hattons Teahupoo was clearly strongest at the line and well on top, if anything if you added an extra furlong or two I think he'd have won by further. The one question mark is the ground, but over 3 miles there will be less emphasis on speed which should help him. Personally I'm not that worried about him being ground dependent, he has form on quicker ground too, albeit against slower horses.
    Long bitcoin, long gold, long silver, long g/s opening day Cheltenham Festival

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    • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post
      Flooring Porter looks a little odd on the exchange. Emphasis on the little. Matched at 11s (his highest) and now nothing on the lay side. I’ve put a silly bit in for penny’s to see if the little becomes a lot.
      The exchange never lies ...



      ... it does sometimes.

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      • As mad as it may sound I think I'd rather have Paisley Park than Teahupoo or Klassical Dream.

        I'm not convinced Teahupoo wants 3m yet, and zero evidence to suggest he'll get the trip, and we've no idea how Klassical Dream is coming along, but he finished behind PP in last seasons race and if anything Paisley Park looks to be in better nick than he was last season.

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        • Originally posted by Brooksie View Post

          I don't think you can be over confident Teahuoo doesn't like the track based off one run. Admittedly he did run an absolute stinker but he was no better at Punchestown either. On quicker ground I just think he got left behind. In the Hattons Teahupoo was clearly strongest at the line and well on top, if anything if you added an extra furlong or two I think he'd have won by further. The one question mark is the ground, but over 3 miles there will be less emphasis on speed which should help him. Personally I'm not that worried about him being ground dependent, he has form on quicker ground too, albeit against slower horses.
          Of course you can't, but it's definitely a question mark against Teahupoo at best. He's also never won a race in the spring...

          I'm not saying he can't win, but that's 3 fairly sizeable question marks for me (Cheltenham, Spring form, trip).

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          • Marie's Rock 7/1 NRNB is by far the best bet following the FP news. She'd go off fav wouldn't she with 7lbs allowance.

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            • Too late....she's just been cut to 5's....

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              • With Klassical Dream very doubtful, maybe Willie will turn to Sir Gerhard as a very able substitute if back fit and firing.

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                • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
                  As mad as it may sound I think I'd rather have Paisley Park than Teahupoo or Klassical Dream.

                  I'm not convinced Teahupoo wants 3m yet, and zero evidence to suggest he'll get the trip, and we've no idea how Klassical Dream is coming along, but he finished behind PP in last seasons race and if anything Paisley Park looks to be in better nick than he was last season.
                  Sounds a bit mad to me COD. If something went off fast and the race fell apart maybe he'd pick up the pieces and win, but you're asking him to do something at 11 that he couldn't do at 9 or 10, and 9 year olds seldom win the stayers, let alone 10 and 11 year olds. Also, beating the pig 4l doesn't read that well does it?

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                  • Wonder if Willie will be more inclined to let Sir Gerhard take his chance here now.

                    I still maintain it's his best chance of completing a Festival hat-trick this year.

                    Imagine he'd go off second favourite at worst - possibly favourite if he had a decent prep run next month.

                    It goes without saying the winner of the Champion Bumper and the Ballymore must have a decent chance of getting the Stayers' trip.

                    But on the assumption he doesn't turn up I'd go for Ashdale Bob at the odds. Third in the Coral Cup off a big weight last year and only beaten 3 lengths by HBTL at Christmas.



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                    • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                      Too late....she's just been cut to 5's....
                      Still 7s NRNB 365

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                      • Honestly don't understand why someone with so much money employs Frank Berry to make entries for him.
                        He's feckin useless.

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                        • Originally posted by Big Bucks View Post
                          Paddy's pushing him out to 12s..cheeky bast...
                          ​​​​​​Disagree with you here tbh. Think that's the right thing to do on an antepost market. And punters get to take the price if they want to risk it. On PP side here.

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                          • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post

                            The exchange never lies ...



                            ... it does sometimes.
                            Can I ask when you originally posted this regarding this exchange movement,Exar.
                            Thanks in advance for your reply.

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                            • Originally posted by Eggs View Post
                              ….no idea if he’s an intended runner, but BetFred are a standout 20-1 NRNB Saint Sam. Only 10-1 PP without NRNB concession.
                              ….14-1 now.

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                              • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post

                                ​​​​​​Disagree with you here tbh. Think that's the right thing to do on an antepost market. And punters get to take the price if they want to risk it. On PP side here.
                                Yes

                                Leaving him the same price when he's less likely to run would be being cheeky barstewards not making him bigger

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