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  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

    Couldn't fancy him at all. All about Allaho. I think he'll make it there and win easily again. He's so far in front of anything else he'd win if 90%
    Really? What makes you say that

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    • Originally posted by charlie View Post

      Really? What makes you say that
      When you look for Bankers at the Fez he just has to be it. What price does he go off? My guess 4/9 at best.

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      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

        When you look for Bankers at the Fez he just has to be it. What price does he go off? My guess 4/9 at best.
        Yep, class apart. Could be as short as 1/4 with no Blue Lord or Fakir.

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        • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

          Couldn't fancy him at all. All about Allaho. I think he'll make it there and win easily again. He's so far in front of anything else he'd win if 90%
          Oh yeah, no doubt it's all about Allaho, provided he turns up

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          • Originally posted by charlie View Post

            Yep, class apart. Could be as short as 1/4 with no Blue Lord or Fakir.
            Just looked.......he's 4/5 NRNB ! That is proper good ! Thought he'd be around 1/2

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            • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

              Just looked.......he's 4/5 NRNB ! That is proper good ! Thought he'd be around 1/2
              He was 6/4 NRNB when Bet365 first put their NRNB prices up

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              • Think I'll be laying him on the day if he's anything like these sort of prices!

                Interesting that people were so keen to forgive Appreciate It for a poor run at first time out at Cheltenham but don't see an issue with Allaho doing it. Allaho got a fairly poor FTO record until last season, and even that Janadil gives a pretty clear indication of how much he's progressed through the season.

                I'm all for him being the best horse in the race by a distance and I've got him in most my antepost multiples unfortunately but 1/4 on seasonal debut in the Ryanair I'd almost be blindly laying regardless of opposition.

                It's obviously hugely final field dependent but he was 4/7 last year with a near perfect prep.

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                • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                  He was 6/4 NRNB when Bet365 first put their NRNB prices up
                  Incredible stuff

                  Hope you backed it !

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                  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                    Incredible stuff

                    Hope you backed it !
                    Of course, seemed a bit big to me

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                    • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                      Of course, seemed a bit big to me
                      Beautiful bet. Fabulous horse. He'll destroy them again.

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                      • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post
                        Allaho got a fairly poor FTO record until last season, and even that Janadil gives a pretty clear indication of how much he's progressed through the season.
                        That's a myth though, that his trainer and assistants have spouted, probably in readiness as an excuse should he be beat, but he's had one really bad run first time out, that's it, ONE, and that was against Min, in his first ever open Grade 1 chase.

                        Willie is also probably the only trainer where going to the festival off the back of a long break would not be an issue.

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                        • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                          Just looked.......he's 4/5 NRNB ! That is proper good ! Thought he'd be around 1/2
                          He's 5/4 with Bet365 NRNB.

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                          • Yes, a myth. Why would you have a horse fully wound up on his first run of an expected long season anyway? Now that they know he's going straight there, clearly they'll have him spot on for March. He's got a few decent animals at home to work him with to get him as fit as a fiddle.

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                            • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                              That's a myth though, that his trainer and assistants have spouted, probably in readiness as an excuse should he be beat, but he's had one really bad run first time out, that's it, ONE, and that was against Min, in his first ever open Grade 1 chase.

                              Willie is also probably the only trainer where going to the festival off the back of a long break would not be an issue.
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                              The differences between his RPR on his first run of the season and his last run of the season for the four seasons he's been racing. I'm no expert on the subject but seems a big variance.

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                              • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                                Yes, a myth. Why would you have a horse fully wound up on his first run of an expected long season anyway? Now that they know he's going straight there, clearly they'll have him spot on for March. He's got a few decent animals at home to work him with to get him as fit as a fiddle.
                                Could use this for every horse in training! I'm guessing you're in the keen to forgive AI effort in the Champion Hurdle camp so what's your reasoning for this?

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