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2023 Ryanair

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  • Is Capadanno entered?

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    • Such a shame about Allaho and glad he's off the critical list.

      Painful for my pocket too as had him loads of very nice multiples from last year that now go in the bin. We're 4 weeks away and hope everyone stays fit and well but I'm sure there will will be more bad news unfortunately.

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      • We only get to hear news re the high profile horses. Along with Allaho there will be another 10 out today that we won't know about until they don't turn up in March.

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        • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
          We only get to hear news re the high profile horses. Along with Allaho there will be another 10 out today that we won't know about until they don't turn up in March.
          Exactly 10 ?

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          • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

            Exactly 10 ?
            Think so, at the last count. Could go up though as still a large part of the day to go.

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            • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
              Is Capadanno entered?

              ….nope, he’s not entered.

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              • Skybet going 13/2 Shishkin & 5/1 Conflated in their win any race markets, only 3's in the Ryanair.
                edit, both into 3/1
                Last edited by Black Dog; 13 February 2023, 04:23 PM.

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                • ….Chacun Pour Soi 50-1 AP with BFSB, a general 20-1 NRNB. Must be an increased chance he’ll be coming over.

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                  • Originally posted by Eggs View Post
                    ….Chacun Pour Soi 50-1 AP with BFSB, a general 20-1 NRNB. Must be an increased chance he’ll be coming over.
                    Worth a punt imo, you couldn’t be confident about him at all after recent runs, but when you think he was vying for favoritism with fakir last time out, then the price differential looks too big.

                    ended up well beat in that race but travelled well for a long way, even though Townend apparently wasn’t happy with him the whole way through. If they can get him back in decent form then I’d take a chance at that price of him traveling over and staying the trip.

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                    • Originally posted by Eggs View Post
                      ….Chacun Pour Soi 50-1 AP with BFSB, a general 20-1 NRNB. Must be an increased chance he’ll be coming over.
                      Wasn't he entered in the Champion Chase ? suggests there was always a chance of him coming over, or maybe I have missed news/comments...

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                      • Chacuns gone at the game imo

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                        • I’d struggle to back Chacun even at that price, should have done better last time out, for me he’s regresssd

                          Now Allaho is out, about time I’ve taken a look at this. I think this will suit Blue Lord well, I never really saw him as a QM 2 miler, but do fancy him for the Ryanair. He’s going to be running against horses that are lesser in quality and a bunch of 3 milers that aren’t good enough for the GC

                          happy to discount his last run once I’ve worked out why he can throw in a bad one here and there - probably a sign that he’s just below the top grade 1 horses, but if more of capable of winning something like the Ryanair

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                          • Originally posted by opatcho View Post
                            I’d struggle to back Chacun even at that price, should have done better last time out, for me he’s regresssd
                            Chacun could be twice or three times that price and he'd still be poor value,age,course,trip,everything against him regardless of how good he's looked in ireland over the last few seasons.
                            I've been chipping away at Pic D'ohry for a while hoping Nicholls would send him here,has looked a different horse this season,only doubts I have is he likes to boss the field & form on undulating tracks,If he wins at the weekend I'd be very hopeful to get a run for my money at least.
                            I considered Saint Calvados at 66's as a ew poke but....Maxwell innit.

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                            • I will probably read (or someone will tell me) that Janidil is not going to Cheltenham, but I can't understand the 33/1 odds for last year's second.. There is no guarantee that Conflated would have beaten him last year when falling and I would argue that Janidil has shown his best form on good or yielding ground and not the soft it was on Thursday last year. While recognizing that Janidil was beaten 6l by Conflated in their most recent meeting, that race was over 3 miles when all of Janidil's best form has been over 2.5 miles; such as when he beat Conflated by 17l at Fairyhouse in April 2021. Another good run over 2.5m was when he was the only horse to get anywhere near to Allaho in the 2021 John Durkan; well clear of both Fakir D'oudairies and Envoi Allen. 33/1 looks too big to me and so does the option of 25/1 NRNB with Skybet and PP.

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                              • Originally posted by Bayoffreedom View Post
                                I will probably read (or someone will tell me) that Janidil is not going to Cheltenham, but I can't understand the 33/1 odds for last year's second.. There is no guarantee that Conflated would have beaten him last year when falling and I would argue that Janidil has shown his best form on good or yielding ground and not the soft it was on Thursday last year. While recognizing that Janidil was beaten 6l by Conflated in their most recent meeting, that race was over 3 miles when all of Janidil's best form has been over 2.5 miles; such as when he beat Conflated by 17l at Fairyhouse in April 2021. Another good run over 2.5m was when he was the only horse to get anywhere near to Allaho in the 2021 John Durkan; well clear of both Fakir D'oudairies and Envoi Allen. 33/1 looks too big to me and so does the option of 25/1 NRNB with Skybet and PP.
                                Not heard any mention of him this season (and not seen any entries) but the fact he is entered in the Ryanair must be taken as a positive that he isn't long term out. Also, his seasonal reappearance over the last three years reads 1,1,2 after breaks of 279, 253, and 220 days. The '2' being a narrow loss to Allaho in the John Durkan. His last run was end of April so if he goes straight there it will be a break of circa 320 days this time. However, the 25/1 NRNB makes plenty of appeal.

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