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  • related double opportunity? The declaration of choice in the triumph race and runner in the bumper?

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    • Originally posted by DenmanSacre View Post

      I don't think New Year Honours would be good enough based on the flat form?

      Foxfire Glow is JP I think. They think a lot of him apparently. The 2nd to Kyrov is good form.
      4lb off what Zanahiyr was rated on the flat, before joining Gordon and going hurdling. They have a similar profile, and also by the same sire. I would imagine he could be a Boodles horse, but at the same time could end up a different proposition over hurdles. Unfortunately we won't know until he is seen.

      Yeah, I like the Foxfire Glow form, didn't realise he was JP though.

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      • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

        4lb off what Zanahiyr was rated on the flat, before joining Gordon and going hurdling. They have a similar profile, and also by the same sire. I would imagine he could be a Boodles horse, but at the same time could end up a different proposition over hurdles. Unfortunately we won't know until he is seen.

        Yeah, I like the Foxfire Glow form, didn't realise he was JP though.
        Fair point. If he's declared then he must be working well and jumping well at home.

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        • Sundays card interesting at Cork. Absolute Notions and Irish Point in a 2 mile maiden hurdle, Lot of Joy for Mullins over 2m4 and Cool Survivor in the 3 miler.

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          • Originally posted by Lbur4288 View Post
            Sundays card interesting at Cork. Absolute Notions and Irish Point in a 2 mile maiden hurdle, Lot of Joy for Mullins over 2m4 and Cool Survivor in the 3 miler.
            Main one is Three Stripe Life in the G3 Novice Chase over 2.4 on first start if declared

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            • Originally posted by Zachx02 View Post
              related double opportunity? The declaration of choice in the triumph race and runner in the bumper?
              ….ha, ha, before I read your post I just had a little on Better Days Ahead (16-1) with Old Victoria (40-1).

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              • Originally posted by Lbur4288 View Post
                Sundays card interesting at Cork. Absolute Notions and Irish Point in a 2 mile maiden hurdle, Lot of Joy for Mullins over 2m4 and Cool Survivor in the 3 miler.
                Icare Desbois for Willie in the 2 miler as well.

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                • Originally posted by Winging The Last View Post

                  Main one is Three Stripe Life in the G3 Novice Chase over 2.4 on first start if declared
                  Yep it was the post on here that got me looking. A decent weekend of racing hopefully lies ahead.

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                  • La Malmason in the 2m 4f maiden at Cork for Cromwell. RP quote: "She's out of Walk In The Park and is an unraced half-sister to Stage Star. She's a filly I like a lot and will enjoy the winter ground. She's showing me plenty at home and we'll go straight over hurdles."

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                    • Away from Ireland...

                      I'm quite interested to see how Knight Salute gets on against Sceau Royal at Wincanton on Saturday. With a view to last season's juveniles in general. I know SR isn't quite champion hurdle class but he's a consistent Grade 1 performer in England and a very good benchmark, particularly in this race. Knight Salute going well against him would be the first real pointer to this bunch of 5yos being any good and their chances in the CH, Vauban of course in particular.

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                      • Yep, good shout Benjy. DH with Pied Piper ties into form with Vauban.

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                        • Originally posted by DenmanSacre View Post

                          I don't think New Year Honours would be good enough based on the flat form?

                          Foxfire Glow is JP I think. They think a lot of him apparently. The 2nd to Kyrov is good form.
                          Kyrov form has flattened out a bit in his last two runs so he’ll need to bounce back. He’s entered on Friday against the best 4yo in France (Hawaii Du Berlais) so that will be a chance to see how he stacks up again. Interestingly there is a potential form line to Irish Point in the same race. Il Est Francais makes his third start over hurdles (up in grade) and he finished second behind Irish Point in his grade one bumper win.

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                          • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post

                            Interestingly there is a potential form line to Irish Point in the same race. Il Est Francais makes his third start over hurdles (up in grade) and he finished second behind Irish Point in his grade one bumper win.
                            Very interesting spot JM, certainly a race worth watching so.

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                            • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post

                              Kyrov form has flattened out a bit in his last two runs so he’ll need to bounce back. He’s entered on Friday against the best 4yo in France (Hawaii Du Berlais) so that will be a chance to see how he stacks up again. Interestingly there is a potential form line to Irish Point in the same race. Il Est Francais makes his third start over hurdles (up in grade) and he finished second behind Irish Point in his grade one bumper win.
                              Kyrov did beat Hawai Du Berlais earlier on when they met. Obviously since then things have swung round a fair bit and Kyrovs form does seem to have tailed off since. It would appear they wanted to strike early with Kyrov, so maybe the Foxfire Glow form isn't all that bad, given how revved up he was for it early on.

                              I imagine Hawai Du Berlais will uphold the more recent form with Kyrov.

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                              • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post

                                Kyrov form has flattened out a bit in his last two runs so he’ll need to bounce back. He’s entered on Friday against the best 4yo in France (Hawaii Du Berlais) so that will be a chance to see how he stacks up again. Interestingly there is a potential form line to Irish Point in the same race. Il Est Francais makes his third start over hurdles (up in grade) and he finished second behind Irish Point in his grade one bumper win.
                                I don't think the further trip suits Kyrov and explains some of it. It's just unfortunate that France doesn't really accommodate 2 milers and they would be unlikely to sell him to race over here.

                                I'd expect Hawai Du Berlais to confirm form again.

                                Regarding Irish Point - have their been any other successful horses from grade 1 APQS bumpers in the UK? The bumper is over 1m4 so not directly comparable to our bumpers over the longer distance. I suppose for a Supreme horse, winning over that distance is a positive.

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