May Yankee

[knockando]

My vote on one selection would be Allegorie de Vassy for Mares Chase at 10s.

Not seen any quotes but assume would be heading over fences? Provided she takes to them, 10/1 seems a very fair price for a horse who was going to go off a short price fave for the mares novice in a fairly windy mares chase division this season.

[FinalFurlong91]

My vote on one selection would be Allegorie de Vassy for Mares Chase at 10s.

Not seen any quotes but assume would be heading over fences? Provided she takes to them, 10/1 seems a very fair price for a horse who was going to go off a short price fave for the mares novice in a fairly windy mares chase division this season.

I'd say that's a bit risky personally

Given we don't know she's going chasing and she missed this years festival with injury

Taking that into account 10s looks a bit stingy to me

[knockando]

I'd say that's a bit risky personally

Given we don't know she's going chasing and she missed this years festival with injury

Taking that into account 10s looks a bit stingy to me

Fair enough, might be one to consider later in the season when confirmation comes as to whether she stays over hurdles or not but one for a left field shout anyway.

[FinalFurlong91]

Fair enough, might be one to consider later in the season when confirmation comes as to whether she stays over hurdles or not but one for a left field shout anyway.

She's definitely one I'd personally rather take 7-8/1 on as soon as the news that she's going chasing breaks

[Craigy14]

She's definitely one I'd personally rather take 7-8/1 on as soon as the news that she's going chasing breaks

I’m sure there were the usual post race comments from WPM about her after one of her wins, she’ll jump a fence etc or words to that affect. She looked liked she had the scope put it that way and was still raw in both her wins.

Agree it’s risky but I’d say the fact she’s missed the mares novice maybe makes it more likely she’ll just go over fences imo.

10/1 is fairly short for something with risk though, PP had her at 25/1 which I’m sure a few took! I certainly did after remembering those comments post race (hope I did hear these if anyone can back that up)

[FinalFurlong91]

I’m sure there were the usual post race comments from WPM about her after one of her wins, she’ll jump a fence etc or words to that affect. She looked liked she had the scope put it that way and was still raw in both her wins.

Agree it’s risky but I’d say the fact she’s missed the mares novice maybe makes it more likely she’ll just go over fences imo.

10/1 is fairly short for something with risk though, PP had her at 25/1 which I’m sure a few took! I certainly did after remembering those comments post race (hope I did hear these if anyone can back that up)

Given she will be only 6 next march and has had a long injury I'd be a little doubtful that they go chasing this year

They may well stay over hurdles another year as they have plenty of time with such a young horse

[nortonscoin200]

[QUOTE=archie;n374539]Having a Mullins yankee this early is buying a ticket for the bingo.

Think you've hit the nail on the head there archie.

The bottom line is it's just too early to be betting on a Willie Mullins yankee.

So many of Willie's Festival winners pop up in the novice races - I imagine they would account for well over half his tally during the last decade (afraid I haven't the time to tally it up right now).

So unless we get involved in some very high risk Mullins bingo we are basically having to restrict ourselves to look at horses whose talent is well exposed and built into the price.

Surely it would be better to do a Mullins yankee in September or October when we at least get a better idea of what he's bought in France, who will go over hurdles and who will stick to bumpers etc - and at that stage we could just latch onto the next Vauban at 25-1.

[Eggs]

…..being too lazy to look back in the thread, I’m not even sure MoM said this would be a Mullins Yankee.

[FinalFurlong91]

…..being too lazy to look back in the thread, I’m not even sure MoM said this would be a Mullins Yankee.

It's in the OP

[Lobos]

Having a Mullins yankee this early is buying a ticket for the bingo. For reasons already mentioned, I'd steer clear of the mares. I'd go with:
Energumene (QM)
Billaway (Hunter)
Sir Gerhard (Turners)
Facile Vega (Ballymore)
with an honourable mention for State Man (Champion Hurdle).

I've found someone else who thinks Facile Vega will end up in the Ballymore!!! Yes Arch !

I'd go Vega (Bally), Sir G (Turners) , Instit (Mares Chase) and Hunters Yarn (Supreme).

[Eggs]

…..I’d be wary of taking 4-1 FV for Ballymore at this stage. Indeed, I’d be wary of taking even shorter for the Supreme. Ante-post is calculated risk but the price has to be factored into the risk.

You guys are much better at this game than me, so I’ll go with the final selections but 9 months out I’d want a bit more value for uncertainty.

[FinalFurlong91]

…..I’d be wary of taking 4-1 FV for Ballymore at this stage. Indeed, I’d be wary of taking even shorter for the Supreme. Ante-post is calculated risk but the price has to be factored into the risk.

You guys are much better at this game than me, so I’ll go with the final selections but 9 months out I’d want a bit more value for uncertainty.

Bookies aren't exactly putting their necks on the line with those prices are they

[Middle_Of_March]

Evening all - had a few things going on this week but will have this up Saturday night/Sunday morning. Will give the thread a fresh read and post up.

Cheers - MOM

[BigChaang]

Has anyone got any strong views on the Arkle, could be some juice in one or two of Mullins if we think that’ll be their target…

I definitely like the idea of El Fabiolo for the Arkle Chase , and i actually think 10-1 isn't that bad a price .
Already taken a punt early doors , so i'll be dissappointed if he run's elsewhere .
It might be a bit naive , but i have a feeling Jon Bon and El Fab , could be clashing down the road .
assuming that they both go chasing ..

[BookieBasher]

I definitely like the idea of El Fabiolo for the Arkle Chase , and i actually think 10-1 isn't that bad a price .
Already taken a punt early doors , so i'll be dissappointed if he run's elsewhere .
It might be a bit naive , but i have a feeling Jon Bon and El Fab , could be clashing down the road .
assuming that they both go chasing ..

If they clash over fences anything like when they met at Aintree then it will be something to look forward to