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  • I'll be doing the gelino bello bet for saturday.
    But only cos I'll be max betting Paisley Park.

    The race looks perfect for him with dashel drasher setting the gallop.
    He's picked up far better horses than that, and shouldn't get too far behind going down the hill.

    Gelino Bello is the one unknown quantity.

    But the likelihood is the form of him and Blazing Khal is on balance likely to be more on the shit side than good.
    Can't be certain obviously but it's more likely.

    It's a big jump from mid 140's to high 160's.
    For one horse never mind two.

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    • I confess to doing a few of the x country ones ...mainly coz I cant be arsed to study the race and because it would mean they have beaten the current favourite so anything could happen to their price....I have chosen RM,SL and FJ as they are higher in the weights (therefore slightly less inconvenienced when it becomes a level weight race) and reasonably towards the front of the market and less tried and rested over the course therefore less exposed. It’s shit gambling I know but if one them lands I’ve got a big return x country runner

      ive got absolutely no intention of backing the favourite so it’s one of these or watch on the day with little or no financial interest.

      Apologies I also did easysland at 300 as I think he finally showed a bit more lto.

      So 3.5 points invested and its shit or bust

      Typing this post is already as much time as I usually spend on the race in case folks are dying to tell me I’d be better off doing separate singles. I’m sure you are right but I guarantee I would find better things to do with the money

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      • I wondered about Easyland for Saturday myself. He's gone from being fav for the festival and second to Tiger Roll to being bottom weight here! Not sure I can see him doing the double given the weight swing but did wonder if he was capable of being competitive again at the weekend. But I guess at 300/1 I can't knock it either!

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        • ….Gelino & Stayers 40-1 (from 66-1) Hills.

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          • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post
            I wondered about Easyland for Saturday myself. He's gone from being fav for the festival and second to Tiger Roll to being bottom weight here! Not sure I can see him doing the double given the weight swing but did wonder if he was capable of being competitive again at the weekend. But I guess at 300/1 I can't knock it either!
            I was thinking about him too.

            I'm definitely going to back him for the weekends race anyway

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            • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

              I was thinking about him too.

              I'm definitely going to back him for the weekends race anyway
              He definitely showed a bit more spark last time and run a lot better than it looks on paper

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              • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                I was thinking about him too.

                I'm definitely going to back him for the weekends race anyway
                I will be.

                Not the special as he's not capable of 150+ anymore.IMO,
                For the specials you'd be hoping a big Elliot runner don't appear at the festival or doesn't get round.
                But i did do the Snow Leopard one on that basis.
                minimal stakes.

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                • Originally posted by Outlaw View Post

                  One horse ?
                  botox no mug, I can appreciate the odds on offer for said horse with that bet but he’s never run above 150. Market loves potential can’t believe his price Sat vs a couple.
                  I have Botox in my tracker. Had a light bulb moment last night “did Gary Moore do a EdG (when dads lad won the race) with Botox in the Relkeel… run him quietly as a prep for a big race like the cleeve”.
                  I got a little exciting thinking I found a edge, logged into my laptop and started to watch the race again.

                  Botox was running with some enthusiasm, jumped forward. Looked well. Travelled well for 60% of the race and then…. it looked like someone jumped 24lbs onto his back. He fell threw the back without seconds. It’s not like they sprinted and left him dead. “… did he swallow his tongue or something”… was my initial thought… I’ve look to see he they applied a tongue tie - no, I then went back to his run at haydock and they went at a dog slow pace… and with the claimer onboard I question whether he’s hit a ceiling.

                  I spend some time last night trying to make a case for Botox, and I can’t, and this is a horse that’s in my tracker, a horse I know like Cheltenham. I just think he’s hit his ceiling - young horse, but has 16 hurdles to his name.

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                  • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post
                    I wondered about Easyland for Saturday myself. He's gone from being fav for the festival and second to Tiger Roll to being bottom weight here! Not sure I can see him doing the double given the weight swing but did wonder if he was capable of being competitive again at the weekend. But I guess at 300/1 I can't knock it either!
                    Agree it’s a stretch to see it happen in March but like you say 300 ...and the trainer is nothing if not unpredictable

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                    • If Delta was to win Saturday what price would he go ??!! 1/2 ??

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                      • Originally posted by opatcho View Post

                        I have Botox in my tracker. Had a light bulb moment last night “did Gary Moore do a EdG (when dads lad won the race) with Botox in the Relkeel… run him quietly as a prep for a big race like the cleeve”.
                        I got a little exciting thinking I found a edge, logged into my laptop and started to watch the race again.

                        Botox was running with some enthusiasm, jumped forward. Looked well. Travelled well for 60% of the race and then…. it looked like someone jumped 24lbs onto his back. He fell threw the back without seconds. It’s not like they sprinted and left him dead. “… did he swallow his tongue or something”… was my initial thought… I’ve look to see he they applied a tongue tie - no, I then went back to his run at haydock and they went at a dog slow pace… and with the claimer onboard I question whether he’s hit a ceiling.

                        I spend some time last night trying to make a case for Botox, and I can’t, and this is a horse that’s in my tracker, a horse I know like Cheltenham. I just think he’s hit his ceiling - young horse, but has 16 hurdles to his name.
                        He was a tad disappointing getting outpaced before staying on when he looked like he might get PU at one stage I can admit that, certainly needs 3m these days, had 4 runs at 3m couple average efforts last year two solid runs this year can reach 150 for me at this trip and clearly enjoys fighting up that hill. Huge ask for any of these to beat Paisley but as Q touched on Dashel setting an honest pace with a couple in here for a spin(Lord Accord,Gold Tweet?) can't have 3 ahead of him and will be getting on e/w extra markets/place only where I can.

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                        • Originally posted by Eggs View Post
                          ….Gelino & Stayers 40-1 (from 66-1) Hills.
                          Into 33s now…

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                          • Originally posted by Eggs View Post
                            ….Hills Sat;

                            Jupiter dG & TH 25-1
                            Comfort Zone & TH 33-1
                            Scriptwriter & TH 33-1
                            Dixon Cove & TH 66-1
                            Fils de Roi & TH 400-1
                            Active Duty & TH 500-1
                            Mombassa & TH 500-1
                            Unexpected Party & Plate 50-1
                            Stage Star & Turners 66-1
                            Malinello & Plate 100-1
                            Datsallrightgino & 150-1
                            Fern Hill & Plate 250-1
                            Any News & Plate 300-1
                            Delta & XC 9/2
                            Minella & XC 40-1
                            Back on the Lash & XC 150-1
                            Diesel & XC 150-1
                            Foxy Jacks & XC 200-1
                            Snowy Leopardess & XC 200-1
                            Plan of Attack & XC 200-1
                            Roi & XC 200-1
                            Diese Alba & XC 300-1
                            Easyland & XC 300-1
                            Francky & XC 500-1
                            Energ & CC 9/4
                            Edward & CC 4-1
                            Editeur & CC 100-1
                            Funanbule & CC 400-1
                            Amarillo & CC 500-1
                            Fugitif & Plate 50-1
                            Il Ridotto & Plate 50-1
                            Your Darling & Plate 66-1
                            Karl P & Plate 150-1
                            Brave Seasca & Plate 150-1
                            Nocte V & Plate 200-1
                            Simply the B & Plate 250-1
                            Caribbean B & Plate 250-1
                            Spiritoftheg & Plate 300-1
                            One True K & Plate 500-1
                            Allmankind & Plate 500-1
                            Epatante & MH 8-1
                            Martello & MH 100-1
                            Protek & GC 16-1
                            Noble Y & GC 16-1
                            Ahoy & GC 100-1
                            Frodon & GC 200-1
                            Stay Away F & AB 50-1
                            Grand Soir & AB 66-1
                            Idalko B & AB 80-1
                            Maximil & AB 100-1
                            The Wounded K & AB 150-1
                            Park this One & AB 200-1
                            PP & Stay 14-1
                            Gelino & Stayers 66-1
                            Dashel & Stayers 66-1
                            Molly Olly’s & MH 100-1
                            Botox Has & Stay 200-1
                            Tea For & NHC 40-1
                            Mister Coffey & NHC 50-1
                            GA & RY 66-1; GC 150-1
                            Penbroke & Bally 50-1
                            Henri 2nd & Bally 66-1
                            Blenkinsop & Bally 80-1
                            Cruz C & Bally 200-1
                            Mofasa & Bally 400-1
                            Pikar & County 40-1
                            Might I & MP 50-1; Coral 66-1
                            Are these available in Shop?

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                            • Originally posted by Speedy17 View Post

                              Are these available in Shop?
                              …..I think Lobos asked a few pages back & somebody said they’re not on machines but you can ask behind the counter. I’m sure somebody will clarify.

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                              • I couldn’t find them on the machines

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