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…not Festival related but I’ll pop this in here. Sky;
GDM 1st 7 in IGN, 1st 4 GN 16-1
GDM 1st 7 in IGN, 1st 4 GN 16-1
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Place today and win NH Chase is the one I wouldn't mind seeing.Comment
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Wouldn't mind seeing a price for next years GN before the IGN today but everyone seems reluctant to do soOriginally posted by Eggs View Post
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I got Galvin to win the Punchestown Gold Cup and Gold Cup 2023 priced up by sky and they gave me 66/1 which i wont be taking. 5/1 and 25/1 to win both respective races so 66/1 is a joke to me. Might interest some others tho so thought id share regardlessComment
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Originally posted by BarrowNH01 View Post
…many thanks for highlighting. In respect of Galvin, I wonder if next year the primary focus will be on the GN. Saying that, I suppose they could get his mark down & he could still run a big race in the GC after the weights are out.Comment
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Galvin couldn't win a relatively weak GC so i'm struggling to see how he returns to win a potentially strong one.Comment
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I think he will come on alot from a season in open company and APT came back to win. The value is definitely there at 25s and in my opinion hes a better horse than the likes of Ahoy Senor at 6s.Originally posted by Atlantic Viking View PostComment
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I'm like the bookie sympathiser in here but I don't think 66s sounds 'a joke' tbh. 5s for the Punchestown GC you say, if he wins that he'd have to go 11s for Cheltenham. Wouldn't seem that unrealistic?
Although he's not for me as I don't particularly fancy him for either race.
Not sure it was a 'relatively weak' GC this year either mind. Strongest renewal for over 10 years (in my head at least)Comment
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It certainly wasn't a weak Gold Cup.Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post
A Plus Tard's 184 was the best in the race for over a decade, with the average winning rating of the other races in that period of 176, and only one other horse rated 180+
"Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".Comment
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It also, as a GC winning 8 year old, puts him on a par with Denman and ahead of the runner up, a horse called Kauto Star. The RPR's have A Plus Tard as a runner-up 7yo 3lb ahead of Kauto Star as a winning 7yo. Luckily the OR's are more sensible. Perhaps 'relatively weak' was a poor choice of phrase, but I looked back to 1996 and APTs win by 15l is the biggest between now and then (could be even longer, that's all I could be bothered to check), comfortably so in most cases and the only one that gets close is Kauto Star by 13l in 2009. Perhaps APT is the second coming? Perhaps those who genuinely seemed to think Protektorat could win are otherwise respectable members of society that are good to their mums. Where was I?! Oh yes, Galvin wont be winning the 2023 renewal.Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View PostComment
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If you'd gone back one more year you would have seen Master Oats who also by 15l.Originally posted by Atlantic Viking View Post
APTs performance this year was brutal, people forget it was the reigning champion he breezed past after the last, and there haven't been many horses who have had the ability to put 15l between them and their field after the last at the end of a Gold Cup...
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I'm not sure anything beaten this year, by APT, will be back next year and winning the Gold Cup.Originally posted by Atlantic Viking View Post
APTs win felt like an "off the scale" demolition of them.
Similar to what he did at Haydock but against the best 3M+ chasers that GB/IRE could muster."Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".Comment
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Totally agree.Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post
The only case I can make for Gold Cup horses not called A Plus Tard are Conflated and Stattler and only because of their unexposed status, ability to improve and current prices…Comment
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