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March Forum Yankee 2023

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  • #76
    Henderson quoted as saying this about Epatante today: “She will almost certainly come over [to Punchestown]. We have discussed Aintree but it’s two and a half and she doesn’t want two and a half. She’s all about speed.”

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Atlantic Viking View Post
      Henderson quoted as saying this about Epatante today: “She will almost certainly come over [to Punchestown]. We have discussed Aintree but it’s two and a half and she doesn’t want two and a half. She’s all about speed.”
      Doesn’t scream mares hurdle to me that unfortunately as she’d have been a good call for that for this otherwise

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      • #78
        I'd be playing it safe and avoiding horses with uncertain targets or questions over return from injury. So I'd personally go for:

        Jonbon - Arkle
        Shishkin - CC
        Flooring Porter - SH
        Delta Work - XC

        Probably not going to pay big but I imagine all those horses are going to be significantly shorter if they turn up healthy next year.

        I guess Shishkin is a bit of a risk but I'm willing to forgive that run since it just all felt too bad to be true. Until last week he was many people's best horse in training and nap of the Festival. If he wins at Sandown, he'll go back to a really short price. I think the Champion Chase division is likely to stay as being between Energuemene and Shishkin next season with the only threats Ferny Hollow (still unproven outside novice company and injury questions) and Edwardstone (who is clearly good but won a substandard Arkle and feels a class below).

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        • #79
          Mrs Milner finished strongly for third ,after being hampered by a faller 2 out , 16-1 , and 20-1 in a place .
          Assuming this would be the race again for her next year ??.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by BigChaang View Post
            Mrs Milner finished strongly for third ,after being hampered by a faller 2 out , 16-1 , and 20-1 in a place .
            Assuming this would be the race again for her next year ??.
            I like her too for this, only a small mare so perhaps staying over hurdles. Trainer mentioned sticking to her own sex too recently. 20s is very fair ..

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            • #81
              If we are looking at horses this far out, I would want nailed on target (or as good as) and ideally some kind of (ideally winning) Festival form.

              If they've missed the festival because of injury - it would be sensible to have an entry before we start piling in. There will be other yankees for those that miss out on this basis.


              Flooring Porter - Stayers - most obvious one - no case needed
              The Nice Guy - BANC - impressive winner and lightly raced - more likely to go BANC than NHC
              Elimay - Mares Chase - Most likely target, battle-hardened and you should get a run for your money
              Edwardstone - QMCC - Some "surprise" results over the last few years and you know it will be his target.
              L'Homme Presse - Gold Cup - BANC winner in the Gold Cup - obvious target and still an unknown(ish) quantity

              and if you want to play Mullins Bingo - which goes against everything I said at the top...

              Minella Cocooner - Turners

              None of the first 5 are massive prices, but barring injury - they would all seem to be aiming for those races.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Leman14 View Post
                If we are looking at horses this far out, I would want nailed on target (or as good as) and ideally some kind of (ideally winning) Festival form.

                If they've missed the festival because of injury - it would be sensible to have an entry before we start piling in. There will be other yankees for those that miss out on this basis.


                Flooring Porter - Stayers - most obvious one - no case needed
                The Nice Guy - BANC - impressive winner and lightly raced - more likely to go BANC than NHC
                Elimay - Mares Chase - Most likely target, battle-hardened and you should get a run for your money
                Edwardstone - QMCC - Some "surprise" results over the last few years and you know it will be his target.
                L'Homme Presse - Gold Cup - BANC winner in the Gold Cup - obvious target and still an unknown(ish) quantity
                Wouldn't argue with most of that but would add the rider that, with any mare, once they get to a certain age it doesn't take much to persuade an owner to 'stick' and send them to the breeding sheds.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by archie View Post
                  Wouldn't argue with most of that but would add the rider that, with any mare, once they get to a certain age it doesn't take much to persuade an owner to 'stick' and send them to the breeding sheds.
                  Wonder if JP would be as bothered by this?

                  Still has Epatante in training, too.

                  I may be wrong, but think he prefers the racing to the breeding side of the game.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Leman14 View Post

                    Minella Cocooner - Turners


                    Minella Cocooner is one of my favourite novices from this year, always runs his race and jumps efficiently. Came up against a right stayer in The Nice Guy. Hard one to know where he will go next year.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by OffTheBridle View Post


                      Minella Cocooner is one of my favourite novices from this year, always runs his race and jumps efficiently. Came up against a right stayer in The Nice Guy. Hard one to know where he will go next year.
                      Backed m.cocooner for the r.s.a myself , small stake. Think it was Gavin Lynch also said , could go there.
                      Though i could see it , if they went to the Turners , depend's who else willie has for the races as well.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by archie View Post
                        Wouldn't argue with most of that but would add the rider that, with any mare, once they get to a certain age it doesn't take much to persuade an owner to 'stick' and send them to the breeding sheds.
                        Thanks archie.
                        I always forget to factor that in with Mares.

                        The other four are fairly solid though

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                        • #87
                          ….I reckon it’s time.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Eggs View Post
                            ….I reckon it’s time.
                            Indeed it is. Had a busy few days but will go through the thread today (Sunday) and have it up by the time everyone’s up for Monday as it’s quite a long thread (a good thing) so might do it later in the evening.

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                            • #89
                              Jonbon - Arkle @ 10/1
                              Flooring Porter - Stayers Hurdle @ 5/1
                              The Nice Guy - Brown Advisory @ 8/1
                              Tellmesomethingirl - Mares Hurdle @ 8/1

                              Best odds - 5345/1
                              Bookmaker - Betway

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                              • #90
                                Yep, I like that. In so far as you can like any yankee at this point...! Good work.

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