Henderson quoted as saying this about Epatante today: “She will almost certainly come over [to Punchestown]. We have discussed Aintree but it’s two and a half and she doesn’t want two and a half. She’s all about speed.”
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Originally posted by Atlantic Viking View PostHenderson quoted as saying this about Epatante today: “She will almost certainly come over [to Punchestown]. We have discussed Aintree but it’s two and a half and she doesn’t want two and a half. She’s all about speed.”
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I'd be playing it safe and avoiding horses with uncertain targets or questions over return from injury. So I'd personally go for:
Jonbon - Arkle
Shishkin - CC
Flooring Porter - SH
Delta Work - XC
Probably not going to pay big but I imagine all those horses are going to be significantly shorter if they turn up healthy next year.
I guess Shishkin is a bit of a risk but I'm willing to forgive that run since it just all felt too bad to be true. Until last week he was many people's best horse in training and nap of the Festival. If he wins at Sandown, he'll go back to a really short price. I think the Champion Chase division is likely to stay as being between Energuemene and Shishkin next season with the only threats Ferny Hollow (still unproven outside novice company and injury questions) and Edwardstone (who is clearly good but won a substandard Arkle and feels a class below).
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Originally posted by BigChaang View PostMrs Milner finished strongly for third ,after being hampered by a faller 2 out , 16-1 , and 20-1 in a place .
Assuming this would be the race again for her next year ??.
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If we are looking at horses this far out, I would want nailed on target (or as good as) and ideally some kind of (ideally winning) Festival form.
If they've missed the festival because of injury - it would be sensible to have an entry before we start piling in. There will be other yankees for those that miss out on this basis.
Flooring Porter - Stayers - most obvious one - no case needed
The Nice Guy - BANC - impressive winner and lightly raced - more likely to go BANC than NHC
Elimay - Mares Chase - Most likely target, battle-hardened and you should get a run for your money
Edwardstone - QMCC - Some "surprise" results over the last few years and you know it will be his target.
L'Homme Presse - Gold Cup - BANC winner in the Gold Cup - obvious target and still an unknown(ish) quantity
and if you want to play Mullins Bingo - which goes against everything I said at the top...
Minella Cocooner - Turners
None of the first 5 are massive prices, but barring injury - they would all seem to be aiming for those races.
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Originally posted by Leman14 View PostIf we are looking at horses this far out, I would want nailed on target (or as good as) and ideally some kind of (ideally winning) Festival form.
If they've missed the festival because of injury - it would be sensible to have an entry before we start piling in. There will be other yankees for those that miss out on this basis.
Flooring Porter - Stayers - most obvious one - no case needed
The Nice Guy - BANC - impressive winner and lightly raced - more likely to go BANC than NHC
Elimay - Mares Chase - Most likely target, battle-hardened and you should get a run for your money
Edwardstone - QMCC - Some "surprise" results over the last few years and you know it will be his target.
L'Homme Presse - Gold Cup - BANC winner in the Gold Cup - obvious target and still an unknown(ish) quantity
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Originally posted by archie View PostWouldn't argue with most of that but would add the rider that, with any mare, once they get to a certain age it doesn't take much to persuade an owner to 'stick' and send them to the breeding sheds.
Still has Epatante in training, too.
I may be wrong, but think he prefers the racing to the breeding side of the game.
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Originally posted by OffTheBridle View Post
Minella Cocooner is one of my favourite novices from this year, always runs his race and jumps efficiently. Came up against a right stayer in The Nice Guy. Hard one to know where he will go next year.
Though i could see it , if they went to the Turners , depend's who else willie has for the races as well.
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Originally posted by archie View PostWouldn't argue with most of that but would add the rider that, with any mare, once they get to a certain age it doesn't take much to persuade an owner to 'stick' and send them to the breeding sheds.
I always forget to factor that in with Mares.
The other four are fairly solid though
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