Cheltenham 2023 - Early fancies

[RoadToCheltenham]

The reliable Michael Looby has tweeted to say Flame Bearer has moved to Willie Mullins this summer. The depth in that yard is a joke!

[Lobos]

The reliable Michael Looby has tweeted to say Flame Bearer has moved to Willie Mullins this summer. The depth in that yard is a joke!

He's a greedy old fart isn't he !

Another one to add to the Novice Chasing ranks I assume. Arkle/Turner's ??

[CJW]

Do we think Lossiemouth is one for the festival or perhaps given more time? Have seen this mentioned that maybe willie will not rush her.

With Gala Marceau perhaps one to think about most for the festival?

Just wanted to find out the general impression was.

[JackieMoon33]

Do we think Lossiemouth is one for the festival or perhaps given more time? Have seen this mentioned that maybe willie will not rush her.

With Gala Marceau perhaps one to think about most for the festival?

Just wanted to find out the general impression was.

They’ve both won over hurdles so neither can be held back for a novice hurdle campaign. I’d say if they’re good enough then they’d have to be aimed at either of the two juvenile races at Cheltenham.

[CJW]

They’ve both won over hurdles so neither can be held back for a novice hurdle campaign. I’d say if they’re good enough then they’d have to be aimed at either of the two juvenile races at Cheltenham.

Yeah, I think I've got confused with Lossiemouth. You'd imagine both high on the list of potential festival horses.

[fatherjohn]

He's a greedy old fart isn't he !

Another one to add to the Novice Chasing ranks I assume. Arkle/Turner's ??

looking at his runs over hurdles he generally out stayed those around him (except state man who looks top draw) so I'd take the view turners the more likely.

[JackieMoon33]

Yeah, I think I've got confused with Lossiemouth. You'd imagine both high on the list of potential festival horses.

Willie will likely have more than 5 you could put in the shortlist right now if they all did race this season. Of the ones I know are with him, I quite like Risk Belle who also won over hurdles too. Like every other division though, Willie will be mob handed! He’s also been plundering the Point scene more than recent seasons so I dread to think how dominant he could be this year.

[Lobos]

Willie will likely have more than 5 you could put in the shortlist right now if they all did race this season. Of the ones I know are with him, I quite like Risk Belle who also won over hurdles too. Like every other division though, Willie will be mob handed! He’s also been plundering the Point scene more than recent seasons so I dread to think how dominant he could be this year.

I can see him possibly running one or two more experienced 4yo recruits from France in the Supreme, Ballymore or Albert, especially the Fillies as they'll get all the allowances.

[ComplyOrDie]

I can see him possibly running one or two more experienced 4yo recruits from France in the Supreme, Ballymore or Albert, especially the Fillies as they'll get all the allowances.

Has he ever done this?

[Spectre]

Jamestown has now been renamed Jazzy Matty.

Vanguard renamed Fancy Potter too. Been informed this guy is injured though.

Thanks and very much appreciated Jackie

[Lobos]

Has he ever done this?

Not sure. Must be tempting though especially with those with plenty of French hurdles experience. 4yo Fillies would get 1stone 3pounds allowance. Huge !!

[ComplyOrDie]

Not sure. Must be tempting though especially with those with plenty of French hurdles experience. 4yo Fillies would get 1stone 3pounds allowance. Huge !!

It's only huge if they are good enough in the first place! They might need 3 stone, for all we know.

No 4 year old has won the Supreme since 1999, and I'm not sure if a filly or mare have ever won it? Willie sticks to his tried and tested, so I'm not sure why he wouldn't again, especially as he has the top two in the betting currently, with a load sitting in behind.

[Lobos]

It's only huge if they are good enough in the first place! They might need 3 stone, for all we know.

No 4 year old has won the Supreme since 1999, and I'm not sure if a filly or mare have ever won it? Willie sticks to his tried and tested, so I'm not sure why he wouldn't again, especially as he has the top two in the betting currently, with a load sitting in behind.

Yeah, it's an odd one why more don't run in it these days. Plenty have been entered up in recent years though so maybe one day they'll take their chance. I'd like to see it more often. 14 have won in its entire history.

[Lobos]

Not Robcour, but I'd thought it would be good to post all of the unraced French Breds that Willie has bought over the last few months so we can keep our eyes out for them

Spanish Harlem - 360k - Arqana summer sale - 4 yo winner of a single hurdle race in June 2022 so should still be a novice - RPR of 111

Absurde - 260k Arqana summer sale - Flat recruit, 4 yo gelding who ran 7th in graded company in France prior to being sold

Daddy Long Legs - 210k - Arqana summer sale - 3 yo colt with a single run on the flat

Quais De Paris - 180k - Arqana 2021 Autumn Sale - 4 yo gelding with a single run over hurdles, finishing 3rd - RPR 118

Bialystok - 160k - Arqana 2021 Arc Sale - in a fact an irish bred raced in France on the flat

Parmenion - 230k - Arqana 2021 Summer Sale - Fancied by a few on here as Willie's triumph horse last year but that turned out to be Vauban

Re Spanish Harlem he's just 14/1 with Skybet TWAR but a massive 33/1 with William Hill in the same market.

Similarly, a couple have mentioned positively Bear Ghylls recently. He's 12/1 TWAR with Skybet but over double that at 25/1 with William Hill.

[Joleg]

Re Spanish Harlem he's just 14/1 with Skybet TWAR but a massive 33/1 with William Hill in the same market.

Similarly, a couple have mentioned positively Bear Ghylls recently. He's 12/1 TWAR with Skybet but over double that at 25/1 with William Hill.

and 50-1 on saturday