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To expand on my thoughts, the 10s and 12s are value if, and only if, my thought that he left his season behind in the galmoy proves right. Otherwise, he's just a 'glorified staying' 2m4f to 2m6f horse and I agree they don't tend to win the stayers. I'd say though, Willie has got some excellent novice staying hurdlers though so if KD is still his number one dart next year it would be a big statement.
Also Flooring porter is still my idea of the most likely winner
Edit: We also have to remember that I'm comparing 10/1 KD to 9/4 facile Vega (supreme) when I talk about value or lack of it
[QUOTE=Odin;n373409]I love it when we have differences of opinion!
Also Flooring porter is still my idea of the most likely winner
Agree with that and 7's is pretty fair for a dual Stayers hurdle winner at this stage although I don't see him going unbeaten en route to Cheltenham so theres a chance he could hit double figures (however briefly) next season. Willie saying TNG and Cocooner both going chasing must mean he still has the faith KD is good enough to win if on song, maybe we only see him over Christmas between now and March? I was never a big fan of Buzz and who knows how he'll be after a serious injury although recovery sounds like it's going well so far. I wanted to see Thedevilscoachmen at 3m and although Mark jumped off it was to ride a last time out grade 1 winner which is perfectly fair enough but I'm hopeful he'd side with the youngster going forward, indecently I'd heard he was withdrawn due to ground but also read it was a respiratory issue? Can anyone confirm? Thanks.
There's a couple at prices that could go there with a big chance but as you say FP is still the most likely winner Imo.
No info regarding respiratory issue for TDC, but the following are facts regarding ground. He's been a non-runner due to it in valuable races the last twice. He hasn't run on it since his debut bumper. After his navan win on heavy in Feb, his trainer said 'this ground seems to be important'. Probably a fair conclusion can be drawn with regards to his preferences based on those.
Agree with your comments re: flooring porter and kd. Buzz I thought had a chance last year but my understanding is that horses rarely come back with same ability from pelvis injuries like the one he has so very much a watching brief there for me
Yeah safe to say that ground is important for him from what you've laid out above, possibly not the strongest form for KD with Ashdale Bob in behind but given the way TDC got up to get the better of him over 2m5 last time going through the line nicely I'd have fancied his chances today even with the different ground and would be interesting to find out which was the reason he was pulled, you'd imagine they'd have run him on that ground if he was sound being the final outing of the season but if it was the ground that's a bit disconcerting if it's basically Heavy or Non-runner for him - or disconcerting for me should I say having backed him for next year
Gentlemansgame had a decent run today. Did anyone hear anything about him going chasing next year?
I noticed that Mouse Morris ran alpha des obeaux in the punchestown champion stayers hurdle as a 6 six year old as well and finished a 10 length 3rd in it in 2016. He then went on to finish 4th in the Brown advisory the following March.
This could be a similar route for Gentlemansgame. I think he could have a good chance in the BA. He was prominent through out today and stayed the full 3 miles.
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