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Fat Jockey HANIDCAP Yankee - Captain: Zachx02

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  • #31
    I would suggest

    Ultima - Does He Know / Vintage Clouds
    GA - Embittered
    Pertemps - SDB / Winter Fog
    County - West Cork / Anyharminasking

    I assume that this will be each way ?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Joleg View Post
      I would suggest

      Ultima - Does He Know / Vintage Clouds
      GA - Embittered
      Pertemps - SDB / Winter Fog
      County - West Cork / Anyharminasking

      I assume that this will be each way ?
      Yeah E/W forgot to specify

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      • #33
        How about having the best handicap trainer onside for the first three legs - in partnership with the best jockey at the Festival.

        And then leave it to Gordon and his best claimer to deliver the knockout punch in the Festival closer.

        Floueur (Ultima) 8-1
        Buddy Rich (GA) 7-1
        Top Bandit County) (7-1
        Chemical Energy (MP) 8-1

        ***Edited: didn't realise it was a handicap yankee when I included Galvin
        Last edited by nortonscoin200; 9 March 2022, 04:14 PM.

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        • #34
          Gumball GA
          Andy Dufresne Plate
          dunboyne Pertempts
          Gaelic warrior boodles

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          • #35
            ….Sporting Life’s Ben Linfoot selects 4 British horses he feels are well handicapped, including another shout for Gumball;



            Spiritofthegames - Ultima/Plate
            Dame de Compagne - Coral Cup
            Gumball - Grand Annual
            Honest Vic - Pertemps

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            • #36
              I often don't get involved in these yankees, as so often the obvious, under priced horses are chosen, and that's not for me.

              But I think one angle that may be an edge for this years festival is the older UK horses. 9 and 10 year olds.

              It's public knowledge that the handicapper is quicker and more lenient with older handicappers this season and if trainers have latched onto this then there may be some well plotted horses that could run well at big prices.

              One or two members have mentioned these types already and will have struggled to convince many including myself, but Ben Linfoot's column the other day was interesting, and an each way handicap yankee with these types may be a decent edge at big prices.





              The horses that would fit the bill, and I would prefer the handicaps that you don't need to be that young in myself, where we know the older horses can pop up from time to time and win or place.

              Global Citizen 50-1 Grand Annual
              Spiritofthegames 33-1 Plate
              Dame de Compagnie 25-1 pertemps
              Honest Vic 25-1 pertemps
              Gumball 25-1 Grand Annual

              All these above were mentioned by Ben, but there are several in the Kim Muir, so the conformations tomorrow will thin them out a bit.
              Elegant Escape, Janika etc.
              There will also be others that people on here may like or know of targets etc.

              This is relatively new thing and horses like this would normally have had to run several times to get dropped 10lb's plus, but this season they've been dropped in 2 or three races, and sets them up perfectly for the spring festivals, especially horses with back class that could easily have been hiding a bit.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Quevega View Post
                I often don't get involved in these yankees, as so often the obvious, under priced horses are chosen, and that's not for me.

                But I think one angle that may be an edge for this years festival is the older UK horses. 9 and 10 year olds.

                It's public knowledge that the handicapper is quicker and more lenient with older handicappers this season and if trainers have latched onto this then there may be some well plotted horses that could run well at big prices.

                One or two members have mentioned these types already and will have struggled to convince many including myself, but Ben Linfoot's column the other day was interesting, and an each way handicap yankee with these types may be a decent edge at big prices.





                The horses that would fit the bill, and I would prefer the handicaps that you don't need to be that young in myself, where we know the older horses can pop up from time to time and win or place.

                Global Citizen 50-1 Grand Annual
                Spiritofthegames 33-1 Plate
                Dame de Compagnie 25-1 pertemps
                Honest Vic 25-1 pertemps
                Gumball 25-1 Grand Annual

                All these above were mentioned by Ben, but there are several in the Kim Muir, so the conformations tomorrow will thin them out a bit.
                Elegant Escape, Janika etc.
                There will also be others that people on here may like or know of targets etc.

                This is relatively new thing and horses like this would normally have had to run several times to get dropped 10lb's plus, but this season they've been dropped in 2 or three races, and sets them up perfectly for the spring festivals, especially horses with back class that could easily have been hiding a bit.
                Excellent summary which makes me wonder why you berated me when I mentioned global citizen a while back, 100/1 on the day I think you said, I may well have picked the wrong race we'll see, he may run like a bag of shit, but I was so smug when reading Ben linfoots article ​​​

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by AaronLad View Post

                  Excellent summary which makes me wonder why you berated me when I mentioned global citizen a while back, 100/1 on the day I think you said, I may well have picked the wrong race we'll see, he may run like a bag of shit, but I was so smug when reading Ben linfoots article ​​​
                  I wasn't berating, you misunderstood.
                  Was just a price thing, and timing.
                  I think he's on to something.
                  There are plenty of others I've listed as well.
                  Should be some fancy prices if entered.

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                  • #39
                    e/w for me
                    Coral - Drop The Anchor
                    PP - The Glancing Queen
                    Pertemps - Remastered
                    Ultima - Floueur

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                      I wasn't berating, you misunderstood.
                      Was just a price thing, and timing.
                      I think he's on to something.
                      There are plenty of others I've listed as well.
                      Should be some fancy prices if entered.
                      I'm happy that you see the angle now, could be profitable, if the cap fits in the pertemps is another I've latched on to, certainly one I'd put forward for this Yankee aswell

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by AaronLad View Post

                        I'm happy that you see the angle now, could be profitable, if the cap fits in the pertemps is another I've latched on to, certainly one I'd put forward for this Yankee aswell
                        I did one with him last night.

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                        • #42
                          Some shouts that would interest me.

                          Tuesday - HMS Seahorse Boodles
                          Tuesday - Fantastikas Ultima
                          Wedneaday - Frero Bambou Grand Annual
                          Thursday - Tullybeg Pertemps

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                          • #43
                            The Shunter - Coral Cup
                            Tullybeg - Pertemps
                            Frontal Assault - Kim Muir
                            Adamantly Chosen - Martin Pipe

                            They’re my 4 most confident handicap guesses!

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                            • #44
                              Thanks for all the suggestions guys, will be going through it tonight and choosing it, any last minute suggestions feel free to reply

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                              • #45
                                The way Surprise Package won today I'd concentrate on the hurdles and Irish horses.

                                Each way selections

                                Boodles - Champion Green. See Charlie's excellent reasoning on the Boodles thread.

                                County - Colonel Mustard. Andy Holding and Rory Delargy both agreed on this horse on the Oddschecker video and convinced me he has a great chance.

                                The other one I'd suggest for the race is Tax for Max. Haven't looked but imagine he's already been put up on the thread. Ex flat horses do well in this and he was a high class flat horse. Was running with his balls in place, hormones dictating his behaviour and couldn't settle, yet ran to a decent level last year. He's had his balls clipped and you'd expect him to settle better now. He could be one who shortens near the end of the week if Willie has a good week.

                                Pertemps - Tullybeg. JG on board. Can't see it unplaced.

                                Coral Cup - Champagne Gold. Really like The Shunter but the value has gone. Champagne Gold is fascinating for this. Horses that have been chasing andgo back over hurdles have a good record in this. Was being campaigned over 2 and a half over fences and then put back to 2m at the DRF handicap hurdle to ready him for this. Ran poorly in the County last year but went off 6/1 (possible Rachel factor) after running well at the DRF. Pedigree would suggest 2 and a half will be fine (sired by Presenting and the mare is a half sister to Azertyuiop). He should be dropped in and be waited with, which tends to help in this race.


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