Doing A Naiad 2022

[doctorwu]

Put this in my diary but I assume others haven't seen that, The Wolf is an unlikely runner as his next race will probably be the Scottish National. If the going were to get testing then they'd consider moving Kiltealy Briggs to the plate and running The Wolf. Straight from the owners.

Many thanks for that.

[doctorwu]

Put this in my diary but I assume others haven't seen that, The Wolf is an unlikely runner as his next race will probably be the Scottish National. If the going were to get testing then they'd consider moving Kiltealy Briggs to the plate and running The Wolf. Straight from the owners.

If that's the case I'd be tempted to bring Eclair Surf in but no course form is a big worry.

[Spectre]

I like Eclair Surf, but he's running in the Eider tomorrow which suggest the Ultima is a 'just in case' entry. Certainly a 4 mile marathon isn't ideal in the context of the Ultima two and half weeks later.

[Quevega]

I am led to believe all is well with Ben Dundee. I think this has been the plan for a long time. We shall see.

Just backed it 22-1 wh
likely to stay on Irish mark of 146 seeing as handicapper left school boy on Irish mark of 142
and he ran well in the plate off 147
if the 7lb claimer rides he’ll look attractive to some.
in fact the related double with school boy in the Kim muir isn’t daftest idea

[Dandrew99]

I'm curious what your angle is on Ben Dundee doctorwu as you were strongly opposed to Galahad Quest because of trends? I assume you're a trends man which I totally understand, but he doesn't exactly come out well...

Six of the last seven ran at Cheltenham that season.
Eight of the last nine had run at a previous Festival.
Seven of the last nine no older than eight.
10 of the last 13 won by either novices or second season chasers.
All winners this century had recorded their best RPR over at least 3 miles.
Four of the last 8 ran in the Newbury Ladbroke Chase. Three others were novices.
No Irish trained winner since 2006.
Seven of the last eight rated at least 142
No winner with a letter as its last race form since 1997.
18 from last 20 no more than one career fall

Been somewhat generous by giving him the best RPR one, he's ran to 152 once over 3 miles on Good to Yielding ground and once over 2m4. He's also never won over 3 miles, ran 13 times over fences, hasn't ran in the last 60 days, all going against him too. Doesn't exactly seem like a trends pick to me?

Also bit confused by the NH Chase talk, he's not entered, or even a novice?

[Quevega]

I'm curious what your angle is on Ben Dundee doctorwu as you were strongly opposed to Galahad Quest because of trends? I assume you're a trends man which I totally understand, but he doesn't exactly come out well...

Six of the last seven ran at Cheltenham that season.
Eight of the last nine had run at a previous Festival.
Seven of the last nine no older than eight.
10 of the last 13 won by either novices or second season chasers.
All winners this century had recorded their best RPR over at least 3 miles.
Four of the last 8 ran in the Newbury Ladbroke Chase. Three others were novices.
No Irish trained winner since 2006.
Seven of the last eight rated at least 142
No winner with a letter as its last race form since 1997.
18 from last 20 no more than one career fall

Been somewhat generous by giving him the best RPR one, he's ran to 152 once over 3 miles on Good to Yielding ground and once over 2m4. He's also never won over 3 miles, ran 13 times over fences, hasn't ran in the last 60 days, all going against him too. Doesn't exactly seem like a trends pick to me?

Also bit confused by the NH Chase talk, he's not entered, or even a novice?

He’s a novice
And another read of what I said should ease the confusion

[Quevega]

Apologies
he isn’t a novice
the article exists though

[Quevega]

On train at minute so no emojis

[Dandrew99]

He’s a novice
And another read of what I said should ease the confusion

I know you said he wasn't entered, wasn't questioning that. Was more the whole not a novice thing that was confusing me. He won a chase in November 2018?

Edit... seen your replies. All good was genuinely going a bit nuts and wondering if there was some random rule I wasn't aware of, or if there was another Ben Dundee somewhere

[Quevega]

My fault
I must’ve missed that win myself when I read the article couple months back

[Dandrew99]

https://www.skysports.com/racing/news/12426/12508160/ben-dundee-is-cheltenham-bound-after-fine-leopardstown-run

I assume that's the article. Pretty terrible reporting that, all the trainer said was "He'll go to Cheltenham for one of those amateur races,".

[Quevega]

https://www.skysports.com/racing/new...opardstown-run

I assume that's the article. Pretty terrible reporting that, all the trainer said was "He'll go to Cheltenham for one of those amateur races,".

Yeah
i saw he got 146 and put 2 +2 together that the Kim muir would be out
but missed the beginner he won back in the day

[doctorwu]

I'm curious what your angle is on Ben Dundee doctorwu as you were strongly opposed to Galahad Quest because of trends? I assume you're a trends man which I totally understand, but he doesn't exactly come out well...

Six of the last seven ran at Cheltenham that season.
Eight of the last nine had run at a previous Festival.
Seven of the last nine no older than eight.
10 of the last 13 won by either novices or second season chasers.
All winners this century had recorded their best RPR over at least 3 miles.
Four of the last 8 ran in the Newbury Ladbroke Chase. Three others were novices.
No Irish trained winner since 2006.
Seven of the last eight rated at least 142
No winner with a letter as its last race form since 1997.
18 from last 20 no more than one career fall

Been somewhat generous by giving him the best RPR one, he's ran to 152 once over 3 miles on Good to Yielding ground and once over 2m4. He's also never won over 3 miles, ran 13 times over fences, hasn't ran in the last 60 days, all going against him too. Doesn't exactly seem like a trends pick to me?

Also bit confused by the NH Chase talk, he's not entered, or even a novice?

GQ is one of the first horses I put a line though because he has no form over 3m. As for BD, he has a best RPR over 3m & he has festival form. He doesn't fit all the trends which is why I think he will place.

[doctorwu]

I'm curious what your angle is on Ben Dundee doctorwu as you were strongly opposed to Galahad Quest because of trends? I assume you're a trends man which I totally understand, but he doesn't exactly come out well...

Six of the last seven ran at Cheltenham that season.
Eight of the last nine had run at a previous Festival.
Seven of the last nine no older than eight.
10 of the last 13 won by either novices or second season chasers.
All winners this century had recorded their best RPR over at least 3 miles.
Four of the last 8 ran in the Newbury Ladbroke Chase. Three others were novices.
No Irish trained winner since 2006.
Seven of the last eight rated at least 142
No winner with a letter as its last race form since 1997.
18 from last 20 no more than one career fall

Been somewhat generous by giving him the best RPR one, he's ran to 152 once over 3 miles on Good to Yielding ground and once over 2m4. He's also never won over 3 miles, ran 13 times over fences, hasn't ran in the last 60 days, all going against him too. Doesn't exactly seem like a trends pick to me?

Also bit confused by the NH Chase talk, he's not entered, or even a novice?

Never said BD was entered in a NHC, nor did I say he was a novice.

[doctorwu]

I like Eclair Surf, but he's running in the Eider tomorrow which suggest the Ultima is a 'just in case' entry. Certainly a 4 mile marathon isn't ideal in the context of the Ultima two and half weeks later.

Couldn't back him if running in Eider. Another one to put a line through.