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  • Originally posted by Topofthegame2021 View Post
    Not sure who’s seen Upping the Ante but what’s the opinion on Gavin Lynch saying that Sir Gerrard will go for the Ballymore? Everything coming out of the yard is suggesting bumpers
    It was an interesting theory and most points already mentioned by Q. I just hope Gordy keeps it for here!

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    • Simon Rowlands on Sir Gerhard

      Simon Rowlands reveals which horse is already carrying his cash in the Champion Bumper after impressing on debut.

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      • Originally posted by Hurdles or chasing View Post
        Simon Rowlands on Sir Gerhard

        Simon Rowlands reveals which horse is already carrying his cash in the Champion Bumper after impressing on debut.
        Interesting stuff.
        Should be going hurdling.

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        • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

          Interesting stuff.
          Should be going hurdling.
          Really? I read into this that they already have the bumper winner so will go for that?

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          • Sir Gerhard has a mostly flat pedigree, (his mare was placed on the flat, and won a 2M hurdle, the rest of the family were/are flat horses).

            Maybe he will never go fencing, if he is so quick, which brings the Supreme Novice Hurdle followed by the Champion Hurdle into play.

            If that were to happen then getting to a Gold Cup aged 9 is obsolete.

            There's nothing in the pedigree books that says a Jeremy sired gelding would win a 3M2F Gold Cup.

            The best jump horse Jeremy has ever sired in his unfortunately short stud career is Our Conor - It would be great if Sir Gerhard could get close to his rating over hurdles.
            "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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            • Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post
              Sir Gerhard has a mostly flat pedigree, (his mare was placed on the flat, and won a 2M hurdle, the rest of the family were/are flat horses).

              Maybe he will never go fencing, if he is so quick, which brings the Supreme Novice Hurdle followed by the Champion Hurdle into play.

              If that were to happen then getting to a Gold Cup aged 9 is obsolete.

              There's nothing in the pedigree books that says a Jeremy sired gelding would win a 3M2F Gold Cup.

              The best jump horse Jeremy has ever sired in his unfortunately short stud career is Our Conor - It would be great if Sir Gerhard could get close to his rating over hurdles.
              No chance he'd run in a gold cup.
              Slim chance he can win a supreme or ballymore at 7 also.

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              • Originally posted by Pendil View Post

                My memory of it is that Gordon made the comment about not running EA at Cheltenham after EA won at the DRF, early February. At that point Malone Road was already injured?

                I just entered Malone Road in the RP search and knee injury reported early December 2018
                No he said after the win on December 2nd at Fairyhouse wouldn't be going to Cheltenham

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                • Originally posted by Crolwey113 View Post

                  No he said after the win on December 2nd at Fairyhouse wouldn't be going to Cheltenham
                  Found the quotes actually just there from Sun 2nd Dec 2018,

                  For the Champion Bumper Paddy Power go 10/1 from 20/1 about Envoi Allen.

                  However Gordon Elliott (had a winner at the Longford point-to-point today too) said: "He's a nice horse but he’s a horse for next year. We’re only minding him this year.


                  “He’ll probably have one more run in a bumper and he won’t be going to Cheltenham.


                  “He’s a baby and has only been on grass once.”

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                  • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                    Slim chance he can win a supreme or ballymore at 7 also.
                    Erm, why?!


                    Surely he is an exception, in running in the bumper at 6 and being 'this good'?



                    You and Lobos going to start a club for him to win the CH as he'd have no chance in a novice hurdle at 7?






                    Unless you mean slim chance as he's not even lined in the the Bumper yet, let alone won it and gone through another season unbeaten etc haha - which makes any horse a slim chance.

                    The age isn't that important though...

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                    • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                      Erm, why?!


                      Surely he is an exception, in running in the bumper at 6 and being 'this good'?



                      You and Lobos going to start a club for him to win the CH as he'd have no chance in a novice hurdle at 7?






                      Unless you mean slim chance as he's not even lined in the the Bumper yet, let alone won it and gone through another season unbeaten etc haha - which makes any horse a slim chance.

                      The age isn't that important though...
                      I meant both.

                      The age stats are possibly misleading as there may not have been many 7 year olds run at the top level of novice hurdling. Can't be arsed to look.
                      But I've seen many 6yr old bumper winners fade into memory when they went hurdling.

                      And 48 runnings of the ballymore and just one 7 yr old and one 8 yr old is fairly ominous.
                      Supreme is a little better and I think a couple of won it in the last 25 years or so.

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                      • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                        I meant both.

                        The age stats are possibly misleading as there may not have been many 7 year olds run at the top level of novice hurdling. Can't be arsed to look.
                        But I've seen many 6yr old bumper winners fade into memory when they went hurdling.

                        And 48 runnings of the ballymore and just one 7 yr old and one 8 yr old is fairly ominous.
                        Supreme is a little better and I think a couple of won it in the last 25 years or so.
                        If we get to April, Sir Gerhard has won the bumper and is going novice hurdling, I won't be ruling him out because of his age. The bumper winners not going on to do particularly well is always on my mind. We do seem to be in a bit of a purple patch for the race though with some of the recent winners actually doing well?

                        Small data sample though obv.

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                        • Letsbeclearabout has absolutely hacked up there at Punchestown giving weight away, winning v a well thought of Elliott runner.

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                          • Letsbeclearaboutit.......Boom

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                            • 25/1 With Hills

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                              • Originally posted by doctorwu View Post
                                Letsbeclearaboutit.......Boom
                                14s Could be value in time.

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