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  • Originally posted by The King Pimm View Post
    I took the 25’s on Nassalam with B365, if he loses today I’ll get most of it back unless it’s a dire performance.
    He'll struggle to lose at 1/10.

    Kotkijet not having him as the strongest prospect makes me worry for him as a long term Triumph prospect, so I'd prefer cashout than the 28/1 special personally.

    If he wins today and gets cut, but then gets beaten in a tougher assignment next time out, you may get 100% of your money back.

    If he wins today but ends up beaten NTO and you've got the special, you're potentially just on a non-runner for just 3 points more.

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    • I’ve lost on a few odds on favourites over the past fortnight so would prefer to get something back than nothing at all and even at 1/10 on there’s are risks for an extra 3 points.

      I’ve just seen the race result, I thought it was later today.....he’s won by 49 lengths!!!! Either he’s something special or the rest of the field were cows in fancy dress!!
      Last edited by The King Pimm; 8 December 2020, 12:25 PM.

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      • Originally posted by The King Pimm View Post
        I’ve lost on a few odds on favourites over the past fortnight so would prefer to get something back than nothing at all and even at 1/10 on there’s are risks for an extra 3 points.

        I’ve just seen the race result, I thought it was later today.....he’s won by 49 lengths!!!! Either he’s something special or the rest of the field were cows in fancy dress!!
        It is definitely the latter!

        But, he could of course still be something special. He just needs better opposition to prove it against.

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        • ....a Goshen anomaly with SkyBet if interested:

          Goshen to win the Unibet International Hurdle & 2021 CH 16-1 (14-1 with Hills), but they also have listed:
          Goshen to win the International Hurdle & Champion Hurdle 20-1.

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          • Originally posted by Eggs View Post
            ....a Goshen anomaly with SkyBet if interested:

            Goshen to win the Unibet International Hurdle & 2021 CH 16-1 (14-1 with Hills), but they also have listed:
            Goshen to win the International Hurdle & Champion Hurdle 20-1.
            I’m reluctant to bet any more of these To Win Today and a future target until the day of each race after Altior to ensure they turn up in the race on the day but hopefully that Sky Bet on Goshen will still be 20/1

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            • Originally posted by The King Pimm View Post

              I’m reluctant to bet any more of these To Win Today and a future target until the day of each race after Altior to ensure they turn up in the race on the day but hopefully that Sky Bet on Goshen will still be 20/1

              ....looks like Sky have noticed and withdrawn the 20-1 offer. 16-1 is now best price Goshen to win this weekend & CH.

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              • Originally posted by Eggs View Post


                ....looks like Sky have noticed and withdrawn the 20-1 offer. 16-1 is now best price Goshen to win this weekend & CH.
                Another thing to wait for in my opinion is whether there is any market support for them on the day of the race. That is where this bet they can be of real value, if they get hammered for the race that day you know they are expected to be trying and assuming the win double price stays the same it becomes better value. To put another way should Goshen drift on Saturday that 16/1 becomes less value.

                That was supposed to be in response to TKP

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                • ....highlighting some Christmas/Festival offers;

                  Shishkin; Wayward Lad/Arkle 13/8 Sky & Hills (currently boosted to 7/4 with Sky)
                  Epatante; Christmas Hurdle/CH 2/1 Sky (currently boosted to 9/4 with Sky)
                  ABP; Savills/GC 8-1 Sky & Hills
                  Real Steel; placed KG & Ryanair 14-1 Sky, 10-1 Hills
                  Real Steel; KG/Ryanair 125-1 Sky.
                  Real Steel; KG/GC 125-1 Hills.
                  St Roi; Matherson/CH 14-1 Sky, 10-1 Hills.
                  Sire du Berlais; Leopardstown Christmas Hurdle/Stayers 14-1 Hills
                  Minella Indo; Savills/GC 16-1 Sky, 18-1 Hills.
                  Champ; Savills/GC 18-1 Sky, 20-1 Hills.
                  Presenting Percy; Savills/GC 40-1 Sky, 50-1 Hills
                  Fury Road Leop Christmas Hurdle/Stayers 20-1 Sky
                  Ronald Pump; Leopardstown Christmas Hurdle/Stayers 33-1 Sky & Hills.
                  Great White Shark; Leop Christmas Hurdle/Stayers 66-1 Sky.
                  Cyrname; KG/GC 25-1 Sky, 20-1 Hills.
                  LostinTranslation; KG/GC 25-1 Sky.
                  The Big Breakaway; Kauto Star/RSA 40-1 Sky.
                  Last edited by Eggs; 9 December 2020, 12:09 PM.

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                  • ....Hills have Boothill to win tomorrow & Supreme @ 50-1 (note it’s 50-1 with 365 for the Supreme).

                    Noticed another with Hills; Glynn to win on Friday at Doncaster & a/r @ 33-1.

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                    • Originally posted by Eggs View Post
                      ....Hills have Boothill to win tomorrow & Supreme @ 50-1 (note it’s 50-1 with 365 for the Supreme).

                      Noticed another with Hills; Glynn to win on Friday at Doncaster & a/r @ 33-1.
                      Be surprised if Boothill ends up in the Supreme. Even if good enough he'll likely take the Ballymore route. His breeding, and him coming from the P2P sphere should be quite telling.

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                      • Originally posted by Eggs View Post
                        ....Hills have Boothill to win tomorrow & Supreme @ 50-1 (note it’s 50-1 with 365 for the Supreme).

                        Noticed another with Hills; Glynn to win on Friday at Doncaster & a/r @ 33-1.
                        I like the look of that Glynn bet Eggs

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                        • Anything for Court Maid? Haven’t been able to find one for her yet

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                          • Originally posted by Hurricane fly View Post
                            Anything for Court Maid? Haven’t been able to find one for her yet
                            I just messaged Hills about pricing up Patroclus to win at Warwick tomorrow and any race at Festival so will update if they get back to me.

                            Court Maid puzzles me on Friday, that’s a very competitive handicap she’s entered taking on Black Corton. I can’t work out if she’s been sent over to experience the course or over to genuinely compete. If she wins on Friday will they still go for the NHC or aim higher or maybe the Ultima??

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                            • Originally posted by The King Pimm View Post

                              I just messaged Hills about pricing up Patroclus to win at Warwick tomorrow and any race at Festival so will update if they get back to me.

                              Court Maid puzzles me on Friday, that’s a very competitive handicap she’s entered taking on Black Corton. I can’t work out if she’s been sent over to experience the course or over to genuinely compete. If she wins on Friday will they still go for the NHC or aim higher or maybe the Ultima??
                              She is well in on the handicap. Carries a penalty of 5lb only for her last runaway win.

                              Her Irish mark is 5lb lower than the UK mark she runs off on Friday, given UK would “tax” Irish horses a few lbs for underrating their horses c/w the UK, she could be around 10lb better off on Friday than if she entered to run in the UK again.
                              "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                              • Patroclus has been priced up 40/1 by Hills to win today and any race at the Festival

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