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St James’s Palace Hunters Chase

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  • Originally posted by AaronLad View Post
    With Bob and co not winning at the weekend and dolphin square winning his Hunter Chase last week fairly routinely RPR 140 , I've taken the view dolphin square will come here. Having won a class 2 3m handicap hurdle race on new years day off a mark of 139, on the new course, he has shown a liking for Cheltenham, he has made an improvement of 9lbs over hurdles this season, a similar improvement over fences seems likely on last week's evidence, that would see him rated in the 146 region, this is just my opinion.

    At 14/1 and having ran an rpr of 140 last week when a normally very animated David Maxwell barely moved, improvement for Cheltenham is certainly possible and I'd love to cheer home a very likeable character even if his riding style isn't everyone's cup of tea.

    …..despite it getting beat, Nicholls seemed quite bullish about Bob & Co in the Betfair Preview Night. He said the run was just what he needed, he was going well last year when unseating. I assume Maxwell will be on him.
    Last edited by Eggs; 21 February 2022, 10:50 AM.

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    • Originally posted by Eggs View Post


      …..despite it getting beat, Nicholls seemed quite bullish about Bob & Co in the Betfair Preview Night. He said the run was just what he needed, he was going well last year when unseating. I assume Maxwell will be on him.
      But Nicholls said that, not David Maxwell. Tomorrow he will likely be dropped and dolphin square raised slightly. Maybe even flip flop. So David Maxwell's best chance of a win could be dolphin square in the foxhunters, as he is improving and could higher rated, has also won at cheltenham.
      the drop in ratings for Bob and co could tempt David Maxwell to ride Bob and co in the Kim Muir off a mark which could appear below his best leaving him in Maxwell's mind well handicapped. This is all my own opinion one I expect to be correct on. The only doubt I have about Bob and co for the Kim Muir is shantou flyer? Also David Maxwell/Paul nicholls

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      • Originally posted by charlie View Post
        Highway Jewel is interesting. Was a talking horse last year before getting ruled out. Won at Cheltenham in April, won a PTP in Jan. Could go under the radar and is only 8.
        And jumps massively to the right. Look at its run at Cheltenham last year. I couldn't have it winning this race jumping so badly to the right.

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        • Originally posted by AaronLad View Post

          But Nicholls said that, not David Maxwell. Tomorrow he will likely be dropped and dolphin square raised slightly. Maybe even flip flop. So David Maxwell's best chance of a win could be dolphin square in the foxhunters, as he is improving and could higher rated, has also won at cheltenham.
          the drop in ratings for Bob and co could tempt David Maxwell to ride Bob and co in the Kim Muir off a mark which could appear below his best leaving him in Maxwell's mind well handicapped. This is all my own opinion one I expect to be correct on. The only doubt I have about Bob and co for the Kim Muir is shantou flyer? Also David Maxwell/Paul nicholls
          Cat Tiger of his is for the Kim Muir according to Paul Nicholls.

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          • Originally posted by DenmanSacre View Post

            And jumps massively to the right. Look at its run at Cheltenham last year. I couldn't have it winning this race jumping so badly to the right.
            Highway Jewel did jump a few to the right but jumped very well except for a right blunder at the sixth. Massively and so badly to the right is questionable imo.

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            • Originally posted by DenmanSacre View Post

              Cat Tiger of his is for the Kim Muir according to Paul Nicholls.
              one horse of his that actually should be saved for Aintree

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              • Originally posted by AaronLad View Post

                one horse of his that actually should be saved for Aintree
                Should be saved for when his owner/jockey is injured IMO…

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                • Originally posted by Mr X View Post

                  Highway Jewel did jump a few to the right but jumped very well except for a right blunder at the sixth. Massively and so badly to the right is questionable imo.
                  Just rewatched the race. Adjusts and jumps right at 80-90% of the fences, with the jockey having to move her back to the left each time. Some of them are really to the right but the last was a good jump. RP comment is 'jumped badly right throughout'.

                  She won't get away with that in this race. If another front runner is in this, they'll force her to the right so she isn't impeding the others and she'll be taking the long way round.

                  The positive is that the trainer has said she will be coming here instead of Premier Magic.

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                  • Can't have any horse winning at the Fez jumping that badly out to the right. Send him to Aintree instead.

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                    • Originally posted by AaronLad View Post
                      With Bob and co not winning at the weekend and dolphin square winning his Hunter Chase last week fairly routinely RPR 140 , I've taken the view dolphin square will come here. Having won a class 2 3m handicap hurdle race on new years day off a mark of 139, on the new course, he has shown a liking for Cheltenham, he has made an improvement of 9lbs over hurdles this season, a similar improvement over fences seems likely on last week's evidence, that would see him rated in the 146 region, this is just my opinion.

                      At 14/1 and having ran an rpr of 140 last week when a normally very animated David Maxwell barely moved, improvement for Cheltenham is certainly possible and I'd love to cheer home a very likeable character even if his riding style isn't everyone's cup of tea.
                      Whilst as a Bob And Co backer (my only bet in the race), I’d have liked to see him win, it was pretty well known beforehand that it was nothing more than an easy prep with Cheltenham his target. Nicholls after the race seemed pleased with the run with BAC seemingly only half-cooked.

                      Maxwell on board at Cheltenham is a negative for me though. But I think BAC is a pretty good hunter in a weak year. I can’t have Billaway at all at the prices for what it’s worth.

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                      • Originally posted by Middle_Of_March View Post

                        Whilst as a Bob And Co backer (my only bet in the race), I’d have liked to see him win, it was pretty well known beforehand that it was nothing more than an easy prep with Cheltenham his target. Nicholls after the race seemed pleased with the run with BAC seemingly only half-cooked.

                        Maxwell on board at Cheltenham is a negative for me though. But I think BAC is a pretty good hunter in a weak year. I can’t have Billaway at all at the prices for what it’s worth.
                        He ran in the same haydock race last year recording rpr 155, winning easily, why change tac this year leave him undercooked?

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                        • Originally posted by DenmanSacre View Post

                          Just rewatched the race. Adjusts and jumps right at 80-90% of the fences, with the jockey having to move her back to the left each time. Some of them are really to the right but the last was a good jump. RP comment is 'jumped badly right throughout'.

                          She won't get away with that in this race. If another front runner is in this, they'll force her to the right so she isn't impeding the others and she'll be taking the long way round.

                          The positive is that the trainer has said she will be coming here instead of Premier Magic.
                          DenmanSacre our opinions differ which makes racing all the more interesting. The mare is very difficult to train hence now put away for Cheltenham and for me fingers crossed she gets to the race fit and well. Being a winner of all P2P and one win and a close 2nd in two hunter chasers since ariving in this country gives the horse a good chance of running well in this race. Goes on all ground and trained by a more than cabable P2P trainer/rider who one hopes won't for get to enter her this year.

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                          • Originally posted by Mr X View Post

                            DenmanSacre our opinions differ which makes racing all the more interesting. The mare is very difficult to train hence now put away for Cheltenham and for me fingers crossed she gets to the race fit and well. Being a winner of all P2P and one win and a close 2nd in two hunter chasers since ariving in this country gives the horse a good chance of running well in this race. Goes on all ground and trained by a more than cabable P2P trainer/rider who one hopes won't for get to enter her this year.
                            I know a good P2P judge who really likes Highway Jewel as well and thought the latest P2P win was very good so best of luck if they manage to get her here.

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                            • Originally posted by AaronLad View Post

                              He ran in the same haydock race last year recording rpr 155, winning easily, why change tac this year leave him undercooked?
                              He didn’t win the Foxhunters last year though, so worth trying a different approach maybe?

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                              • Originally posted by Stormez View Post

                                He didn’t win the Foxhunters last year though, so worth trying a different approach maybe?
                                He fell going well apparently. I just think if I owned both horses I'd be leaning towards riding the improving course winner, I think if dolphin square comes here he's a point and ride job and Maxwell has the biggest win of his career.

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