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St James’s Palace Hunters Chase

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  • #46
    At last, bookies offer some value - hold the front page!!!

    Can't believe 365 are still going 12-1 Porlock Bay after Billaway's lacklustre effort today.

    Jump on board chaps, can't see Bob and Co beating him at Cheltenham even with a clear round.

    Winged Leader more of a threat but I'd take Porlock at 12-1 any day of the week.

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    • #47
      Not a lover of Billaway but he performs well in this race
      however,he never wins first time up and Willie said he has has niggling problems leading up to today
      6/1 looks a good each way bet for me now,can’t see 3 in this market finishing ahead of him come march

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Fouroverthrutwo View Post

        Won by 7l today at Chipley Park today so on the right track to Cheltenham Could be an interesting runner with course form and good back form to previous winner Hazel Hill.
        I've been on nights this weekend so forgot to correct myself. Delighted to wake up to this news though

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Liammet View Post
          Not a lover of Billaway but he performs well in this race
          however,he never wins first time up and Willie said he has has niggling problems leading up to today
          6/1 looks a good each way bet for me now,can’t see 3 in this market finishing ahead of him come march
          A 6/1 each way bet in this race nearly 2 month out? Surely better bets can be found on the festival than that?

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          • #50
            Originally posted by nortonscoin200 View Post
            At last, bookies offer some value - hold the front page!!!

            Can't believe 365 are still going 12-1 Porlock Bay after Billaway's lacklustre effort today.

            Jump on board chaps, can't see Bob and Co beating him at Cheltenham even with a clear round.

            Winged Leader more of a threat but I'd take Porlock at 12-1 any day of the week.
            Agree he’s great value, think I’m going to add him to Bob And Co & be done with the race.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by nortonscoin200 View Post
              At last, bookies offer some value - hold the front page!!!

              Can't believe 365 are still going 12-1 Porlock Bay after Billaway's lacklustre effort today.

              Jump on board chaps, can't see Bob and Co beating him at Cheltenham even with a clear round.

              Winged Leader more of a threat but I'd take Porlock at 12-1 any day of the week.
              Agree on Porlock and think the jockey situation has been massively overlooked so far.

              Due to the amateur rider ban, he had Lorcan Williams on board last year instead of trainer Will Biddick who’d be one of the top amateurs in my book. In contrast, Townend was on Billaway and Walsh on Staker Wallace.

              When you contrast Williams vs Walsh vs Townend it’s obvious which horses are benefitting but that edge reduces hugely when it’s Biddick vs O’Connor vs Patrick. That, as well as being relatively unexposed at the trip, gives reason to think he can improve on last year (not that he needs to).

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              • #52
                Originally posted by nortonscoin200 View Post
                At last, bookies offer some value - hold the front page!!!

                Can't believe 365 are still going 12-1 Porlock Bay after Billaway's lacklustre effort today.

                Jump on board chaps, can't see Bob and Co beating him at Cheltenham even with a clear round.

                Winged Leader more of a threat but I'd take Porlock at 12-1 any day of the week.
                I assume you realise Porlock Bay has been beaten already this season...

                poss also worth noting that winged leader had been quoted to skip chelt for Aintree prior, with the same yard having vaucelet, who is/ was one for chelt. Whether that changes now, you never know... but a slight caution.
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                • #53
                  Scooby91

                  Have you got a view on the diamond I think I've found in Fumet Doudaries ?
                  Or is he more likely to be targeting 3k pots around Hexham in May ?

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by darlojim View Post

                    A 6/1 each way bet in this race nearly 2 month out? Surely better bets can be found on the festival than that?
                    I see it similar to the situation with Elimay in the mares chase
                    when it was 8 or 10/1,I couldn’t see another 3 horses that were likely to turn up beating her
                    It may be more of a bet in a place or each way multiple

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Istabraq View Post
                      Scooby91

                      Have you got a view on the diamond I think I've found in Fumet Doudaries ?
                      Or is he more likely to be targeting 3k pots around Hexham in May ?
                      He was an extremely cheap buy ?600 (from memory)
                      who has ran in poor races, but has done it well enough, whether he's the first string even in his own yard, I'm not sure.. could be a lively outsider if he lined up.
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post

                        I assume you realise Porlock Bay has been beaten already this season...

                        poss also worth noting that winged leader had been quoted to skip chelt for Aintree prior, with the same yard having vaucelet, who is/ was one for chelt. Whether that changes now, you never know... but a slight caution.
                        Hi Scooby91, yeah I was aware of his defeat at Chaddesley Corbett.

                        But to be honest I thought it was a decent seasonal debut to finish 1l behind Premier Magic who'd won his 2 previous ptps at CC by 12l and 7l.

                        Porlock Bay was beaten at Wincanton in his only prep (Feb) before the Foxhunters last year.

                        I wonder if he'll go there again this time.

                        But my take on the Foxhunters is this:

                        Porlock Bay was running for the first time at Cheltenham when he won last year and he was foot perfect at every fence. Not only that, he looked at ease throughout the entire race. He really was in his comfort zone all the way until after jumping the last.

                        I assume he will be prepared to peak in March again and I didn't see Billaway reversing the form before today's performance. Now I think it's even more unlikely Billaway turns the tables. Ok, Willie says he's had some niggles. But will he be over them by March? Who knows - but anyone who backs him at 6-1 is banking on it.

                        I'm convinced Bob and Co wouldn't have beaten Porlock Bay had he stood up. Bob and Co was starting to feel the pinch and the signs were there when he unseated that his jumping was becoming a little ragged because he was getting tired.

                        I wouldn't normally touch an 11-year-old for any Festival race - but the Foxhunters is the exception that proves the rule and I don't see any exceptional young pretenders emerging so far to suggest a young gun will win this time. I'm sure you'll have a much better idea than me if the last sentence holds water. But I'm all ears Scooby!!!

                        Hadn't seen that Winged Leader might skip Cheltenham - but if he does, that's good news for Porlock Bay.

                        Overall, Porlock ticks a lot of boxes for this race which has had 3 dual winners in the last decade.

                        He may not win but I'd certainly rate him considerably better than a 12-1 chance and that's the bottom line.

                        And right now I don't see anything that's likely to beat him.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Scooby91 View Post

                          He was an extremely cheap buy ?600 (from memory)
                          who has ran in poor races, but has done it well enough, whether he's the first string even in his own yard, I'm not sure.. could be a lively outsider if he lined up.
                          Yeah 800 quid I think.
                          Thanks for response, much appreciated…

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                          • #58
                            Had a little conversation with Highway Jewels owner today just to congratulate him on her success today. He's said it's "all go for the Foxhunters now".

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Lbur4288 View Post
                              Had a little conversation with Highway Jewels owner today just to congratulate him on her success today. He's said it's "all go for the Foxhunters now".
                              Hopefully, its officially a forum horse.........have followed your advice...many thanks

                              Def type of horse we want to be winning this race - so fingers crossed!
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by nortonscoin200 View Post

                                Hi Scooby91, yeah I was aware of his defeat at Chaddesley Corbett.

                                But to be honest I thought it was a decent seasonal debut to finish 1l behind Premier Magic who'd won his 2 previous ptps at CC by 12l and 7l.

                                Porlock Bay was beaten at Wincanton in his only prep (Feb) before the Foxhunters last year.

                                I wonder if he'll go there again this time.

                                But my take on the Foxhunters is this:

                                Porlock Bay was running for the first time at Cheltenham when he won last year and he was foot perfect at every fence. Not only that, he looked at ease throughout the entire race. He really was in his comfort zone all the way until after jumping the last.

                                I assume he will be prepared to peak in March again and I didn't see Billaway reversing the form before today's performance. Now I think it's even more unlikely Billaway turns the tables. Ok, Willie says he's had some niggles. But will he be over them by March? Who knows - but anyone who backs him at 6-1 is banking on it.

                                I'm convinced Bob and Co wouldn't have beaten Porlock Bay had he stood up. Bob and Co was starting to feel the pinch and the signs were there when he unseated that his jumping was becoming a little ragged because he was getting tired.

                                I wouldn't normally touch an 11-year-old for any Festival race - but the Foxhunters is the exception that proves the rule and I don't see any exceptional young pretenders emerging so far to suggest a young gun will win this time. I'm sure you'll have a much better idea than me if the last sentence holds water. But I'm all ears Scooby!!!

                                Hadn't seen that Winged Leader might skip Cheltenham - but if he does, that's good news for Porlock Bay.

                                Overall, Porlock ticks a lot of boxes for this race which has had 3 dual winners in the last decade.

                                He may not win but I'd certainly rate him considerably better than a 12-1 chance and that's the bottom line.

                                And right now I don't see anything that's likely to beat him.
                                That's an interesting way to look at it.. as last years winner has valid claims, but so do a whole lot of them, and I'd have thought he should have drifted for his loss.

                                .I'd personally say that was very much a starting point with billaway as it was porlock tbf... and indeed the ones who beat both are no mugs...

                                I don't think Bob jumps well enough myself, he takes plenty of chances at his fences, and isn't a particularly easy ride for maxwell...I'd have no interest at all, in the mare highway jewel myself, as she has clear ability but I can't see her handling the track again, with her jumping to her right an issue imo.
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