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The ULTIMA Handicap Chase

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  • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

    I wouldn't discount Coko Beach either, who has so far taken a similar path as Milan Native from last year.
    Interesting.....we know how trainers are creatures of habbit

    Think i will risk a bit of the 33s.....good call
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    • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

      I wouldn't discount Coko Beach either, who has so far taken a similar path as Milan Native from last year.
      I think Coko Beach could come here too, but backed him any race because he could feasilby turn up in any one of the Ultima, Kim Muir, or the Plate.
      Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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      • Originally posted by Spectre View Post

        I think Coko Beach could come here too, but backed him any race because he could feasilby turn up in any one of the Ultima, Kim Muir, or the Plate.
        Yeah, I've done the same today

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        • Originally posted by TigerRolllllll View Post

          Interesting.....we know how trainers are creatures of habbit

          Think i will risk a bit of the 33s.....good call
          Where is the 33's.
          I can't see Coko Beach priced up for the Ultima.
          He should be because a good run tomorrow would probably put him out of contention for the Kim Muir.

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          • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

            Where is the 33's.
            I can't see Coko Beach priced up for the Ultima.
            He should be because a good run tomorrow would probably put him out of contention for the Kim Muir.
            Same applied to Run Wild Fred, who has been well supported today

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            • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

              Where is the 33's.
              I can't see Coko Beach priced up for the Ultima.
              He should be because a good run tomorrow would probably put him out of contention for the Kim Muir.
              The best I could come up with is 20s twar with hills

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              • When Gordon Elliott was interviewed after a winner today, on RTV, he was asked about Coko Beach, and he said the horse had come out of his race well, would go to Cheltenham, in either the National Hunt Chase or the 3M Handicap (Ultima).

                I thought that he may still be hoping that the horses mark allowed him the choice to go in a Handicap, so next move is what the Irish handicapper raises him to (from 138) and if it’s feasible to give it a go with the BHA handicapper then he may put him in the Ultima.

                I have got him priced up via Twitter for the Ultima with PP and Betfair, and they have quoted 10/1 NRNB.
                "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                • See my post on the ante post thread

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                  • Surely you won't want Canelo winning tomorrow due to already being on 148, no?

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                    • Hands up, I’m really struggling with this race currently. I’ve got discorama, cap du nord, jerrysback and master tommytucker all nrnb. Not sure who’s running in this race and who’s undervalued. Advice needed please

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                      • Originally posted by dannycraigpirates View Post
                        Hands up, I’m really struggling with this race currently. I’ve got discorama, cap du nord, jerrysback and master tommytucker all nrnb. Not sure who’s running in this race and who’s undervalued. Advice needed please
                        My advice would be relax, wait until we know what Irish entries are made and then wait until the handicapper has had a look and made his views known, think we’ll all have a better idea then....

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                        • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

                          My advice would be relax, wait until we know what Irish entries are made and then wait until the handicapper has had a look and made his views known, think we’ll all have a better idea then....
                          Yeah agree there might be odd horse to get onside in hcaps but once entries are out the obvious shorteners are the novice/2nd season chasers with some graded novice form tie ins. Plenty of plays in the races like the Ultima right up to the day usually.

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                          • Originally posted by dannycraigpirates View Post
                            Hands up, I’m really struggling with this race currently. I’ve got discorama, cap du nord, jerrysback and master tommytucker all nrnb. Not sure who’s running in this race and who’s undervalued. Advice needed please

                            ....not sure it helps but Cap du Nord could be heading to the X-Country according to his trainer.

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                            • Originally posted by Outlaw View Post

                              Yeah agree there might be odd horse to get onside in hcaps but once entries are out the obvious shorteners are the novice/2nd season chasers with some graded novice form tie ins. Plenty of plays in the races like the Ultima right up to the day usually.
                              I just think you need to see what the handicapper does with the Irish entries, I doubt they have one who might get in here 10lb+ below their ability but still worth seeing all the info before making a call...

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                              • pretty sure this is the race that the Irish ain’t won for a long time? Not sure if that matters to anyone but I know stats can be important to some. Don’t think Mullins has ever won it, but may be wrong.

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