The ULTIMA Handicap Chase

[Faugheen_Machine]

Might not get in though.
The race seems to be getting better class of horses now, and we've sacked another handicap too.
The last 2 renewals also on very soft ground which would have thinned the runners out too.
I'd want an antepost bet for this race to have a rating of 140+ to be on the safe side.

I wouldn't want him any lower than his current rating either.

I'll keep hold of the bet as he'll surely get an entry.

[jonthehammer]

Might not get in though.
The race seems to be getting better class of horses now, and we've sacked another handicap too.
The last 2 renewals also on very soft ground which would have thinned the runners out too.
I'd want an antepost bet for this race to have a rating of 140+ to be on the safe side.

Last years bottom weight was 133 but the year before 140

[Kevloaf]

Might not get in though.
The race seems to be getting better class of horses now, and we've sacked another handicap too.
The last 2 renewals also on very soft ground which would have thinned the runners out too.
I'd want an antepost bet for this race to have a rating of 140+ to be on the safe side.

I wouldn't want him any lower than his current rating either.

I'll keep hold of the bet as he'll surely get an entry.

Would need to watch the Ultima back, but didn't he run like that in the Ultima was 8/1C?

Perhaps he is gone

[Faugheen_Machine]

Would need to watch the Ultima back, but didn't he run like that in the Ultima was 8/1C?

Perhaps he is gone

I think he picked up an injury in the Ultima and that was the reason he was off the course for 600+ days.

[Kevloaf]

I think he picked up an injury in the Ultima and that was the reason he was off the course for 600+ days.

Ah okay, good stuff.

Would have held on anyway but fair enough.

[Spectre]

I thought that was alright from Coo Star Sivola. He got a bit outpaced at one point, but just thought he raced a bit lazily.

It's a bit of a theme for me today, but Kempton wouldn't be his course given his slight tendency to adjust and jump left, but even so that was much better than his previous two races after a long absence.

It's possible he might not be the horse he was, but off a light weight I think he would still have enough ability to give a run for the money at 50/1, where he's been there and done that in a race that has significant history for returners doing very well.

I though he was a good bet before today's race, and given what we'd seen from him in his last two races surely his 'staying on, not beaten far' performance was encouraging.

[Milbear0]

Word of warning ref Coo Star, I believe the midlands national would be on the agenda after today’s run.
The horse fractured its leg LTO btw.

[Faugheen_Machine]

Word of warning ref Coo Star, I believe the midlands national would be on the agenda after today’s run.
The horse fractured its leg LTO btw.

Thanks Millbear.

Do you know if they'll give him an entry for the Ultima? I may cash him out after all.

[Milbear0]

I certainly wouldn’t rule it out, so don’t necessarily abandon any positions but be wary of the alternative option too. Dickie felt that he needs a trip over a left handed course with give in the ground. That doesn’t rule out the ultima by any means but he highlighted the MN as an ideal target.
Pleasing enough comeback though showing enough spark once warmed up to the task.

[Spectre]

Thanks for the info Milbear. The Uttoxeter option is fair enough, but I can only imagine him running there if he didn't get into the Ultima. He won the race two years ago, they know the race suits, and he will get in off a similar or better mark than when he won. If he gets in I can't imagine any reason why they wouldn't run. It's a non-decision you'd think.

[Saxon Warrior]

Thanks for the info Milbear. He won the race two years ago, they know the race suits, and he will get in off a similar or better mark than when he won. If he gets in I can't imagine any reason why they wouldn't run.

Time flies, it’s three years ago since Coo Star Sivola won the Ultima as a 6yo novice chaser,

[Spectre]

So it is. And yes it does!

[jackh50]

Loved the way storm control travelled today before emptying over the extended 3m5f at Warwick. He might be dropped a couple of pounds by the handicapper for that and has won his only previous 2 starts over 3 miles this year at Cheltenham, so could be off a decent mark for this if put away now

[Faugheen_Machine]

Loved the way storm control travelled today before emptying over the extended 3m5f at Warwick. He might be dropped a couple of pounds by the handicapper for that and has won his only previous 2 starts over 3 miles this year at Cheltenham, so could be off a decent mark for this if put away now

His Warwick form reads PP7P so he obviously hates the place.

Definitely interesting for a festival handicap.

[BigChaang]

His Warwick form reads PP7P so he obviously hates the place.

Definitely interesting for a festival handicap.

I have Storm Control for the Kim Muir , after he won at cheltenham @ 3m 2 f .
Bit too obvious maybe. , but he picked up after getting lonely in front.- @ cheltenham.