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The Boodles Fred Winter Juvenile Handicap Hurdle

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  • Originally posted by Spectre View Post
    He’ll get his UK rating with the rest of the Irish handicappers next week Jackie.

    The expectation is 147.
    That’s what I thought although wasn’t sure he was in an earlier batch of ‘entries’ by Gordon when he was fishing. The claimer angle is interesting but do they have a good record of winning races at the festival (serious question)?

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    • Jordan Gainford is going to the very top. Cool as a cucumber and very talented. In his embryonic career he already has a 20% win rate. And he won’t have the added pressure of a crowd. With Quilixios and The Bosses Oscar he has a perfect opportunity to showcase his talent at his first Festival. I’m sure there will be others top rides for him too.
      Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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      • Originally posted by Spectre View Post
        Jordan Gainford is going to the very top. Cool as a cucumber and very talented. In his embryonic career he already has a 20% win rate. And he won’t have the added pressure of a crowd. With Quilixios and The Bosses Oscar he has a perfect opportunity to showcase his talent at his first Festival. I’m sure there will be others top rides for him too.
        He looks a good jockey for sure but you’re still trading weight for experience and proven quality. If it was that easy then all the handicaps would be won by conditionals.

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        • Just to remind folks that the suggestion Q could come here isn't very recent, GE mentioned this as long ago as 16th Feb.

          "Elliott did add that Quilixios could run in the Boodles if afforded a favourable mark, but that seems unlikely after his Grade 1 win at Leopardstown".

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          • Originally posted by Spectre View Post
            Jordan Gainford is going to the very top. Cool as a cucumber and very talented. In his embryonic career he already has a 20% win rate. And he won’t have the added pressure of a crowd. With Quilixios and The Bosses Oscar he has a perfect opportunity to showcase his talent at his first Festival. I’m sure there will be others top rides for him too.
            So out of interest - What odds do people think would be offered on Jordan G 2+ festival winners?

            Q/TBO double is best priced 48/1 or 43/1 NRNB

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            • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post

              He looks a good jockey for sure but you’re still trading weight for experience and proven quality. If it was that easy then all the handicaps would be won by conditionals.
              It’s a fair point, but if you knew in advance, you’d have had a young AP on your horse as a 7lb claimer in a heartbeat. This lad will be Champion jockey one day.
              Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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              • Originally posted by Might_Bite View Post

                So out of interest - What odds do people think would be offered on Jordan G 2+ festival winners?

                Q/TBO double is best priced 48/1 or 43/1 NRNB
                Any price you like probably Mite Bite. The bookies won’t have a clue.
                Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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                • Originally posted by Spectre View Post

                  The clue was in this post earlier for those that read it properly earlier Toni. I think pretty much everyone missed exactly what it was saying. #394
                  you may know more than me mate as I must admit I have no inside track on any decision making; how would you price up the market on him to run in the boodles? Id have him fairly long odds on to go the triumph, but like I say I don’t actually know anything

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                  • Originally posted by Might_Bite View Post

                    So out of interest - What odds do people think would be offered on Jordan G 2+ festival winners?

                    Q/TBO double is best priced 48/1 or 43/1 NRNB
                    Get it priced

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                    • Originally posted by ToniC View Post

                      you may know more than me mate as I must admit I have no inside track on any decision making; how would you price up the market on him to run in the boodles? Id have him fairly long odds on to go the triumph, but like I say I don’t actually know anything
                      I’d say he’ll go off 6/4-7/4
                      Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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                      • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post

                        That’s what I thought although wasn’t sure he was in an earlier batch of ‘entries’ by Gordon when he was fishing. The claimer angle is interesting but do they have a good record of winning races at the festival (serious question)?
                        I'm not sure what the answer is, but I wonder how many have been given the chance on a favourite though?

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                        • Originally posted by Spectre View Post
                          I’d say he’ll go off 6/4-7/4
                          What price would you make him to line up? Or are you saying it’s a certainty he lines up in the Fred winter?

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                          • Originally posted by Spectre View Post

                            It’s a fair point, but if you knew in advance, you’d have had a young AP on your horse as a 7lb claimer in a heartbeat. This lad will be Champion jockey one day.
                            But was the conditional AP as good as the champion AP?

                            In more recent times Jack Kennedy was a great conditional but I’m sure he’s improved since then.

                            Just playing devils advocate as, although I’d find it strange, the money worries me that you could be right. I’ve only got Q backed in the Triumph but was one of my earliest bets of the season; I’d be gutted for it to fall at the final hurdle so to speak.
                            Last edited by JackieMoon33; 27 February 2021, 10:25 PM.

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                            • That’s easier, 1/10.
                              Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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                              • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                                I'm not sure what the answer is, but I wonder how many have been given the chance on a favourite though?
                                But isn’t not getting the rides on the favourites a pointer in itself that trainers would rather an established, experienced jockey?

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