The CORAL CUP Handicap Hurdle

[Cashew King]

Brewinupastorm- coral cup?

[Kevloaf]

Brewinupastorm- coral cup?

Would he be too high now?

Not sure how much he had in hand, not like he's much better over fences and dropping back?

[Nathaniel99999]

This is quite a risky tip as I'm not sure if the horse is entered or not, the horse is Janika. I've looked at it's back form and the horse was rated 158 over hurdles a long time back. He finished behind a horse which was William Henry who won the county hurdle a few years back who was top weighted in that race. William Henry won on a mark of 152 I think. I also looked at that horse's prep when the horse won that race and its very similar to Janika's. I think janika will drop another 1lb or 2 from its previous race which will now take the horse to a rating of 146 or 145. Henderson did say the horse will be sticking to 2m 5f too. If the horse does stick to hurdles I think this race would be perfect for it. I've taken 50/1 on Williamhill if anyone follows if the horse does get entered in this race.

I know the race looks very open but I really can't ignore this horse as I really think this would be a step down in grade and the horse doesn't have any other chances in other races in the festival I can see.

[Nortons who]

Would he be too high now?

Not sure how much he had in hand, not like he's much better over fences and dropping back?

Re Brewinupastorm for this, he is currently rated 148 so it depends how much the handicapper raises him for winning yesterday. They might be lenient as it was a seniors race but IMO he travelled well, jumped OK and pulled away at the end.

For the Coral Cup he wouid probably have to carry quite a bit of weight but this would depend on other eentries. Also he won yesterday carrying 11:12 so the weight might not be a problem, more the calibre of opposition he might be giving weight to.

I n recent years boh Whisper and William Henry have won off 153 and 151, so its doable but is Brewinupastorm in the same league as them.

Personally, I hope he goes somewhere as I backed him ages ago TWAR. He looked decent enough yesterday reverting back to hurdles but maybe that was due to the class of the opposition. Haven't heard any post race comments after yesterday's win at Taunton.

[Saxon Warrior]

Re Brewinupastorm for this, he is currently rated 148 so it depends how much the handicapper raises him for winning yesterday. They might be lenient as it was a seniors race but IMO he travelled well, jumped OK and pulled away at the end.

For the Coral Cup he wouid probably have to carry quite a bit of weight but this would depend on other eentries. Also he won yesterday carrying 11:10 so the weight might not be a problem, more the calibre of opposition he might be giving weight to.

I n recent years boh Whisper and William Henry have won off 153 and 151, so its doable but is Brewinupastorm in the same league as them.

Personally, I hope he goes somewhere as I backed him ages ago TWAR. He looked decent enough yesterday reverting back to hurdles but maybe that was due to the class of the opposition. Haven't heard any post race comments after yesterday's win at Taunton.

Looks like another Thomas Darby, revert back to hurdles after a poor stab at chasing, win a mid-trip Ascot handicap hurdle on exactly the same day, for the same trainer, off a chunky rating (TD’s was 151 up to 158, Brewinupastorm 148 up to ?), but then what?

TD skipped the Fez, and hasn’t won since,

Maybe if Brewin goes mid-150’s they will try a Graded Hurdle instead, could chance the Aintree Hurdle.

[Kevloaf]

I've just mentioned Itchy Feet for the Stayers NRNB given he's in the Cleeve, however, this race is also very much on the radar.

Only 16/1 NRNB, so no point taking that now as if he wins the Cleeve he's not gonna come here and if he's beaten he won't get 'clipped' and I think yu could get a better price further down the line, but, he's a horse on my radar for here....

Similar points to my Stayers post that would be positives..... Supreme placed and went off fav for the Marsh in a decent field.

[Pendil]

I've just mentioned Itchy Feet for the Stayers NRNB given he's in the Cleeve, however, this race is also very much on the radar.

Only 16/1 NRNB, so no point taking that now as if he wins the Cleeve he's not gonna come here and if he's beaten he won't get 'clipped' and I think yu could get a better price further down the line, but, he's a horse on my radar for here....

Similar points to my Stayers post that would be positives..... Supreme placed and went off fav for the Marsh in a decent field.

I dont know if it worries you but he bled again last time, having done so in 2019 Supreme.

[Lobos]

I dont know if it worries you but he bled again last time, having done so in 2019 Supreme.

If anyone isn't worried about it they bleeding should be !

[Kevloaf]

I dont know if it worries you but he bled again last time, having done so in 2019 Supreme.

Oh, yeah, it would worry me. Will have to see how it goes next time.

[Spectre]

Column of Fire apart if he comes here (which I think he will), this is one of the few races I'm really struggling to have an opinion on.

Elliott will have two or three. Black Tears has been mentioned by NC200, and Cracking Smart is back in range, and they'll both run their race withough being noticeably well handicapped. They could be his three, but I can't help feeling he's got something else targeted here as well. Any thoughts what else he might be plotting for this?

Hendo is to be feared as usual in this race given he's won 4 of the last 11, with plenty of places too, but I can't figure out what he's going to aim here, that's also nicely handicapped. Which two or three of about twelve candidates do we think will come here? If one of his wins it they've usually run well at HQ before. Champagne Platinum? If I could get bigger than 14/1 nrnb I'd back him? Should I anyway? Does anyone have confidence he'll come here and he's worth backing with cashout at 25/1?

Nicholls has a habit of finding one for this, and I suspect Skelton has enough in his ranks at the moment to have targeted something.

I haven't even mentioned Willie!

I might have to dig out my stats and get to work on it, but it's usually something unexposed, and sometimes an older horse that's had time off or been chasing.

Anyway who's eyeing what for this race? I need some inspiration.

[Rooster Booster]

Column of Fire apart if he comes here (which I think he will), this is one of the few races I'm really struggling to have an opinion on.

Elliott will have two or three. Black Tears has been mentioned by NC200, and Cracking Smart is back in range, and they'll both run their race withough being noticeably well handicapped. They could be his three, but I can't help feeling he's got something else targeted here as well. Any thoughts what else he might be plotting for this?

Hendo is to be feared as usual in this race given he's won 4 of the last 11, with plenty of places too, but I can't figure out what he's going to aim here, that's also nicely handicapped. Which two or three of about twelve candidates do we think will come here? If one of his wins it they've usually run well at HQ before. Champagne Platinum? If I could get bigger than 14/1 nrnb I'd back him? Should I anyway? Does anyone have confidence he'll come here and he's worth backing with cashout at 25/1?

Nicholls has a habit of finding one for this, and I suspect Skelton has enough in his ranks at the moment to have targeted something.

I haven't even mentioned Willie!

I might have to dig out my stats and get to work on it, but it's usually something unexposed, and sometimes an older horse that's had time off or been chasing.

Anyway who's eyeing what for this race? I need some inspiration.

one of Hendos that I have had in mind for this for a while is Time Flies By. He needs to win to get in but I am sure they believe he is very well handicapped. He has four entries this week so that suggests intent. He has been campaigned interestingly to say the least. I have always seen him as an intermediate trip horse but he ran in the handicap won by not so sleepy over 2m lto and one or two of his entries this week are also over 2 miles so it’s possible the county is on their mind. Whatever he runs in this week I will be backing him with a view to rolling up. I think he is also 25s ar. I am convinced there is a good horse in there so this week will be interesting.

[jonthehammer]

My 'very' short list is Column of Fire, Black Tears and Cracking Smart so far. I am sure i will have 6 in my team before the day

[Viking Flagship]

In a similar spot to you on this one Spectre except I took the plunge a couple of weeks ago on the 25s Champagne Platinum to add to Column of Fire. My reservation about CP is that it seems they’re adamant on trying to get qualified for the Pertemps - which suggests the Coral Cup isn’t a ‘plan’, and I would ideally be wanting it to be a ‘plan’. Henderson knows more than most about winning Coral Cups and if he thought CP was the answer why bother going for a Pertemps qualifier?! My plan is to cash out the CC bet should he get qualified for the Pertemps unless there’s anything in the performance to suggest he wouldn’t take in the Pertemps (i.e. looking a non-stayer, like he did in the Kim Muir last season, albeit that’s 2f further). I’ve similarly taken the 25s with cash out for the Pertemps - suffice to say I intend holding only 1 of these tickets beyond this Friday. Perhaps the qualifier is to find out once and for all whether he’s a 3miler, except I’m not sure Huntingdon is the best place for answering that particular question!

I find this race very tough to get a handle on before entries.

[jack1092]

My two currently (not bet them) are Bachasson and Floueur.

Bachasson was too far back last time in this + was slightly impeded- he was never winning anyway, but i do think he's better than that. Can't imagine the handicapper doing much with him this year.
Floueur had 145 Cayd Boyd behind him on debut for GE. Chasing hasn't worked and 140 in Ire is a workable mark. Hopefully he goes here anyway.

[Another Value Loser]

https://jumpsmanracing.wordpress.com/2021/01/26/antepost-punting-the-coral-cup-and-boodles-juvenile-handicap-hurdle/

Black Tears price could shorten on the back of this. Some of his earlier selections in the season have caused bookies to cut prices which is rather annoying