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COUNTY Handicap Hurdle 2021

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  • Saldier has to come here now doesn't he ??? No chance in the Churdle and looks to have declined a little. Perfect race for him. He'll be dropped a bit wouldn't he ??

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    • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
      Saldier has to come here now doesn't he ??? No chance in the Churdle and looks to have declined a little. Perfect race for him. He'll be dropped a bit wouldn't he ??
      He looks shit though and a mark of mid 150's would be hard to overcome.
      And his price is fucking awful.
      If it's been a plan from day one then backers might be on to something, but it would look a shit plan right now with Willie having nothing for the champion hurdle itself.
      If you think you're well in for the county off 159 then you'd go close in this years champion hurdle.

      But you never know, as they may enter him and get a mark in the lower reaches of 150, as he's a tricky horse to rate in the UK.
      Low 150's may tempt them to run.

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      • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

        He looks shit though and a mark of mid 150's would be hard to overcome.
        And his price is fucking awful.
        If it's been a plan from day one then backers might be on to something, but it would look a shit plan right now with Willie having nothing for the champion hurdle itself.
        If you think you're well in for the county off 159 then you'd go close in this years champion hurdle.

        But you never know, as they may enter him and get a mark in the lower reaches of 150, as he's a tricky horse to rate in the UK.
        Low 150's may tempt them to run.
        Just seen that PP have priced him up at 9's. They can do one. Would want 20's to take a risk.

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        • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

          Just seen that PP have priced him up at 9's. They can do one. Would want 20's to take a risk.
          Correct.
          Worse price I've seen in a long time.
          Whoever requested it must have been gobsmacked.

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          • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

            Correct.
            Worse price I've seen in a long time.
            Whoever requested it must have been gobsmacked.
            Yep, probably one of those that shouldn't have been requested. Wait for entries then go in. Damage done now. I'm not keen on all this requesting. Can backfire bigtime.

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            • Both Saldier and Saint Roi should be getting drops after their last couple of performances.

              Saint Roi won a handicap off 137 and I’m not sure he’s really done anything to justify being raised from the 137 he was given there

              Saldier equally should be dropped to the mid 150s, two 6th places this season. The handicapped is very quick to raise these horses 10+lbs but then refuses to drop anything by more than 2lbs.

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              • Picked up on this yesterday - post racing Willie commented about the tactics on Saint Roi.... which JP would have decided on! I wonder whether they’ve been holding him back for a go at this again

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                • ....Saldier is 14-1 in Hills a/r market.

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                  • Will be interesting to see what mark blue lord is given looking at this

                    I still like ngolo, feel like they pulled stumps on graded races for him after the royal bond and a handicap has been the target since

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                    • I thought there’d be more handicappers in my notebook after this weekend. There was however at least one in the 2m hurdle on Saturday.

                      Eclair De Beaufeu - Sent off 8/1 in this 2yrs ago as a 5yo off 136 when sauntering to the front in the straight, only to then look beaten when unseating at the last. He came back last year to be 2nd in the Grand Annual off 149, finding only Chosen Mate too good. He’s probably handicapped to the hilt over fences, but not so over hurdles. He’s reverted to hurdles this year and was a keeping on 6th on Saturday off an Irish 135 when the market suggested it wasn’t going to be his day. Likely to head to the County next off a mark much lower than last year’s GA. He’s 25/1 NRNB and I’m really surprised that price has held.
                      • Plenty of big field handicap form
                      • Cheltenham form
                      • Trained by a handicap wizard
                      • Competitive mark
                      • Still only 7
                      • If he doesn’t run you get you money back

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                      • Originally posted by Viking Flagship View Post
                        I thought there’d be more handicappers in my notebook after this weekend. There was however at least one in the 2m hurdle on Saturday.

                        Eclair De Beaufeu - Sent off 8/1 in this 2yrs ago as a 5yo off 136 when sauntering to the front in the straight, only to then look beaten when unseating at the last. He came back last year to be 2nd in the Grand Annual off 149, finding only Chosen Mate too good. He’s probably handicapped to the hilt over fences, but not so over hurdles. He’s reverted to hurdles this year and was a keeping on 6th on Saturday off an Irish 135 when the market suggested it wasn’t going to be his day. Likely to head to the County next off a mark much lower than last year’s GA. He’s 25/1 NRNB and I’m really surprised that price has held.
                        • Plenty of big field handicap form
                        • Cheltenham form
                        • Trained by a handicap wizard
                        • Competitive mark
                        • Still only 7
                        • If he doesn’t run you get you money back
                        YES.

                        I knew I was right to give it the big'un when you came back.



                        That ticks so many boxes for me.... returning to a race after being a fav previously at a much bigger price is an angle I absolutely love.


                        Love it.

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                        • Originally posted by Viking Flagship View Post
                          I thought there’d be more handicappers in my notebook after this weekend. There was however at least one in the 2m hurdle on Saturday.

                          Eclair De Beaufeu - Sent off 8/1 in this 2yrs ago as a 5yo off 136 when sauntering to the front in the straight, only to then look beaten when unseating at the last. He came back last year to be 2nd in the Grand Annual off 149, finding only Chosen Mate too good. He’s probably handicapped to the hilt over fences, but not so over hurdles. He’s reverted to hurdles this year and was a keeping on 6th on Saturday off an Irish 135 when the market suggested it wasn’t going to be his day. Likely to head to the County next off a mark much lower than last year’s GA. He’s 25/1 NRNB and I’m really surprised that price has held.
                          • Plenty of big field handicap form
                          • Cheltenham form
                          • Trained by a handicap wizard
                          • Competitive mark
                          • Still only 7
                          • If he doesn’t run you get you money back
                          That’s a good bet.
                          "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                          • Originally posted by Viking Flagship View Post
                            I thought there’d be more handicappers in my notebook after this weekend. There was however at least one in the 2m hurdle on Saturday.

                            Eclair De Beaufeu - Sent off 8/1 in this 2yrs ago as a 5yo off 136 when sauntering to the front in the straight, only to then look beaten when unseating at the last. He came back last year to be 2nd in the Grand Annual off 149, finding only Chosen Mate too good. He’s probably handicapped to the hilt over fences, but not so over hurdles. He’s reverted to hurdles this year and was a keeping on 6th on Saturday off an Irish 135 when the market suggested it wasn’t going to be his day. Likely to head to the County next off a mark much lower than last year’s GA. He’s 25/1 NRNB and I’m really surprised that price has held.
                            • Plenty of big field handicap form
                            • Cheltenham form
                            • Trained by a handicap wizard
                            • Competitive mark
                            • Still only 7
                            • If he doesn’t run you get you money back
                            Really like this VF, could turn out to be a fantastic spot Cheers

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                            • Excellent spot VF. 18lb's between his Chase and Hurdle mark makes him very interesting for this! Adding him myself.

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                              • Great spot there Viking Flagship - i'm in

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