COUNTY Handicap Hurdle 2021

[Viking Flagship]

CCM, Jono, COD, AV and SW all in agreement within 30 mins.... smart move

That line up isn’t too shabby!

[Quevega]

That line up isn’t too shabby!

I'm sure you'll be delighted to know that I like this bet also.
However, I am concerned that he may be given a rating nearer his chase mark.
As long as it's nearer and not actual then he'd have a chance at the price.
I've actually had it on my list for a return in the Plate, as he'd be closer to Chosen mate at the revised weights, but he's persisted with the hurdles this season, and put inexperienced jockeys on every time (always good to have someone to blame in the stewards room)
Realistically he's ran enough times over hurdles lately to not have to auto rate him on last seasons Grand annual performance. (153)
But he might do.
I'd want a low 140's mark to see him be really competitive.

[Can't Catch Me]

I’m not quite sure exactly how he works, but the British handicapper isn’t guaranteed to see it that way though I believe? Horses have received much higher marks than their Irish marks when entered for hurdles based on their exploits over fences & vice versa?

that said I remember being sweet on tout est permis for the pertemps last year, and he was handicapped with just the regular tax on his hurdles mark despite his Chase Mark being much higher. Hopefully Viking is onto something I do like the angle and must admit I’m tempted...

No I wasn't suggesting the English handicapper would give him a mark 18lb's lower than his chase one, but the fact he has had three runs over hurdles this season will surely make it harder for him to justify using his chase mark for this race.

[ToniC]

No I wasn't suggesting the English handicapper would give him a mark 18lb's lower than his chase one, but the fact he has had three runs over hurdles this season will surely make it harder for him to justify using his chase mark for this race.

I’d be pretty keen, but there’s always the worry he’d be hammered with tax. NRNB probably the way to go, as I guess Gordon would probably pull him in protest if he thought the mark was unfair

[Can't Catch Me]

I’d be pretty keen, but there’s always the worry he’d be hammered with tax. NRNB probably the way to go, as I guess Gordon would probably pull him in protest if he thought the mark was unfair

Definitely. 25/1 5 places NRNB a no brainer compared to 33/1 4 places with no insurance!

[ComplyOrDie]

For those interested in Master McShee the Racing Post comments ended with "trainer said gelding was found to have blood at both nostrils post race" and I'm not sure how much of an update we will get about him prior to the festival.

Wouldn't want anyone to rush into a cash out, and the blood could be a minor thing, but thought it was worth noting on here.

[Birds Nest]

Im gonna try and get diego du charmil priced up for this, noticed he'd been reverted back to hurdles this year and has contested some hot races seeing his mark drop from 151 to 145, previous fred winter winner with a chase mark 10lbs higher 155, nichols has a decent record in this. Ddc contestes the christmas hurdle last time out which has thrown up some county winners in the past, notably mohaayed and also sopranzene who was also trained by nichols. Would someone be kind and try to get a price for me with sky too as its the only one have trouble with.. Thanks..

[Spectre]

Just a cautionary note Birds Nest. DDC is one that Nicholls has previously said needs to go right handed so I can't imagine his target is the Festival.

[Birds Nest]

Just a cautionary note Birds Nest. DDC is one that Nicholls has previously said needs to go right handed so I can't imagine his target is the Festival.

Thanks spectre, ive always thought the right hand issue with him was less so over hurdles and came about with a fence, i'm going to take some nrnb with him and hope for an entry in a couple of weeks as him sure nichols must think hes well handicapped now over hurdles, previous festival winner over the smaller obstacles makes me think theres legs in this. Thanks anyway S much appreciated imput..

[Nortons who]

Just noticed that Capodanno is entered in a 2m 4.5 f Novice Hurdle on Thursday.

Is this the end of the County Hurdle sub plot for the Mystery Horse ?

• Thursday, 11 February 2021 - 3:20
  (Six day) at Thurles Horse & Jockey Rated Novice Hurdle (2m4?f)

[Run4Home]

Just noticed that Capodanno is entered in a 2m 4.5 f Novice Hurdle on Thursday.

Is this the end of the County Hurdle sub plot for the Mystery Horse ?

• Thursday, 11 February 2021 - 3:20
  (Six day) at Thurles Horse & Jockey Rated Novice Hurdle (2m4?f)

Pipe maybe ?
The fact the only novice entry he didn’t get was in Supreme suggests County may not be the target

[Kevloaf]

Just noticed that Capodanno is entered in a 2m 4.5 f Novice Hurdle on Thursday.

Is this the end of the County Hurdle sub plot for the Mystery Horse ?

• Thursday, 11 February 2021 - 3:20
  (Six day) at Thurles Horse & Jockey Rated Novice Hurdle (2m4?f)

Depends whether you think he's going to try and run to the best of his ability in it?

[Nortons who]

Depends whether you think he's going to try and run to the best of his ability in it?

Kevloaf

He's the xxxxing Mystery Horse, how would we know?

I suppose if he runs well for 2 miles and then slows down, or crawls along for 2 miles and speeds up ino 4th, then we may have a better idea.

If he wins at a canter then Olly Bolly might take note. But I'm not then backing him for the Ballymore, I draw the line before backing the same horse in succession for three different races at the same Festival!

We only have until Thursday to find out, well possily

[Kevloaf]

Kevloaf

He's the xxxxing Mystery Horse, how would we know?

I suppose if he runs well for 2 miles and then slows down, or crawls along for 2 miles and speeds up ino 4th, then we may have a better idea.

If he wins at a canter then Olly Bolly might take note. But I'm not then backing him for the Ballymore, I draw the line before backing the same horse in succession for three different races at the same Festival!

We only have until Thursday to find out, well possily

Well the mystery horse was suppose to be a Supreme contender.

So essentially, he's just shit, and not hiding anything.



I feel that's got lost along the way and people want the handicap plot to make themselves feel better for backing a horse I didn't even give the name of to justify the fact they backed it in the first place.


I can accept, the tip was shit, and the horse isn't a "plot"


I hope for all of us, we get lucky, and he is a handicap ''plot'..... but it's not the most likely outcome.

[Nortons who]

Well the mystery horse was suppose to be a Supreme contender.

So essentially, he's just shit, and not hiding anything.



I feel that's got lost along the way and people want the handicap plot to make themselves feel better for backing a horse I didn't even give the name of to justify the fact they backed it in the first place.


I can accept, the tip was shit, and the horse isn't a "plot"


I hope for all of us, we get lucky, and he is a handicap ''plot'..... but it's not the most likely outcome.

Kevloaf

I have every confidence that after winning the County Hurdle we shall be touting him for the CH in the footsteps of Sant Roi........and then where will that get us (sorry wrong thread).

Thursday it is then, lets catch up again post race for an afternoon Capodanno