Supreme Novices Hurdle 2021

[charlie]

Noticed some of the bookies are getting edgy with the prices for Bob Olinger in this

Yeh Sky and Betfair have both shit the bed and gone from double figures to 5/1

[Atlantic Viking]

Noticed some of the bookies are getting edgy with the prices for Bob Olinger in this

Aye and it's getting tempting for cash out purposes. I had a 4pt 'saver' (like many on here i'm well in with him for the Ballymore so it would help soften the blow...) on him in the Supreme NRNB which can now be cashed out for a 2pt profit. Surely he sticks to the Ballymore?

[Quevega]

Aye and it's getting tempting for cash out purposes. I had a 4pt 'saver' (like many on here i'm well in with him for the Ballymore so it would help soften the blow...) on him in the Supreme NRNB which can now be cashed out for a 2pt profit. Surely he sticks to the Ballymore?

Got to leave it haven't we ?
If Appreciate It drops out.
He'd definitely run here.
No other reason to leave him in.
Might cash out Sunday morning though if no news by then.

[Bert]

Hills are still 16/1 RE Bob Ollinger

[Can't Catch Me]

Got to leave it haven't we ?
If Appreciate It drops out.
He'd definitely run here.
No other reason to leave him in.
Might cash out Sunday morning though if no news by then.

Even if Appreciate drops out would he definitely run? Surely Henry would rather have a dart in each race? Don't think that's why they've left him in... think it would be in case there was some sort of deluge more than anything.

[Quevega]

Hills are still 16/1 RE Bob Ollinger

antepost though

[DeeBee]

Yes, I don't like it!!!

Same.. I was hoping to see Bob O removed. Henry has Ballyadam and Irascible here and the fav for the Ballymore.. surely he doesn’t come here?

[Quevega]

Even if Appreciate drops out would he definitely run? Surely Henry would rather have a dart in each race? Don't think that's why they've left him in... think it would be in case there was some sort of deluge more than anything.

Not if he thinks your Ballyadam is shit

[Can't Catch Me]

Not if he thinks your Ballyadam is shit

Cant see it myself. They arent going for the Ballymore just to avoid AI.

[Quevega]

Cant see it myself. They arent going for the Ballymore just to avoid AI.

It's about which race looks more competitive.
2 strong challengers in the Ballymore.

Without Appreciate It in the supreme.
0 challengers really
He'd be a shorter price in the supreme without Appreciate It. Than he is for the ballymore.

[darlojim]

Did Henry not confirm Bob to the ballymore in the most recent tour?

"We’re very happy with him. He worked really well the other day and seems really well. He was impressive at Naas and that form looks to give him a good chance in the Ballymore Novices’ Hurdle. All of his form is on softer ground, but he’s a good-moving horse and I think he’d handle better ground."

[Can't Catch Me]

It's about which race looks more competitive.
2 strong challengers in the Ballymore.

Without Appreciate It in the supreme.
0 challengers really
He'd be a shorter price in the supreme without Appreciate It. Than he is for the ballymore.

I agree he would be shorter in the Supreme without AI than he is now in the Ballymore. But it doesnt strike me as Henry's MO. He will look at which trip is better for the horse and judge it on that. The intermediate trip looks perfect on anything like Good to soft or slightly softer. His breeding strongly suggest he will be a 3 miler in time.

[Altior]

Did Henry not confirm Bob to the ballymore in the most recent tour?

"We’re very happy with him. He worked really well the other day and seems really well. He was impressive at Naas and that form looks to give him a good chance in the Ballymore Novices’ Hurdle. All of his form is on softer ground, but he’s a good-moving horse and I think he’d handle better ground."

Yeah he's going to the Ballymore.

The same ones who were doing geometry and astro physics on if Samcro was going for Supreme or Ballymore are the same ones harping on about this.

He's been napped by nearly every preview night for the Ballymore. Not that it means much that he's napped, more so the fact they're all mentioning him with the Ballymore.

[ComplyOrDie]

His breeding strongly suggest he will be a 3 miler in time.

To come to that conclusion I would assume you only looked at the sire, as his dam and grand-dam have mostly produced progeny that have recorded their highest RPR's at the intermediate trip, rather than 3m.Even his sire produced a Supreme winner last season, TBF.

That's not to say he won't get 3m in time (I think he will at some point), however he's enough of a turn of foot to suggest the Supreme wouldn't be an issue either.

[Can't Catch Me]

To come to that conclusion I would assume you only looked at the sire, as his dam and grand-dam have mostly produced progeny that have recorded their highest RPR's at the intermediate trip, rather than 3m.Even his sire produced a Supreme winner last season, TBF.

That's not to say he won't get 3m in time (I think he will at some point), however he's enough of a turn of foot to suggest the Supreme wouldn't be an issue either.

Yes fair comments CoD. Can't argue with the intermediate trip on breeding either.

I meant that I could see them stepping him up in trip ito be a 3 miler in time rather than dropping back, so the Ballymore is a nice stepping stone en route.