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  • I'd say that unless he's being deliberately plotted at the County, they'll be open minded at the moment, and he'll have one more run before they decide.
    Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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    • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
      They'll likely look at his mark and run him in the handicap at Dublin if they like it.
      Then see how he gets on there.
      Before Cheltenham decisions.
      With Appreciate It seemingly rock solid in Supreme then you just keep coming back to the County. He'll deffo get in now so I'd say that's it for him. No need to run again and spoil his mark.

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      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

        With Appreciate It seemingly rock solid in Supreme then you just keep coming back to the County. He'll deffo get in now so I'd say that's it for him. No need to run again and spoil his mark.
        The Dublin handicap is worth more than the county I think.
        And he looks like he needs experience.
        We'll see what his mark is.

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        • Originally posted by Spectre View Post
          Beat trees, but yes cosy enough. Hard to take a firm view to be honest.
          One of those trees was used to make Bob Olinger look good though

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          • Plenty can change. I think 33/1 NRNB for the Supreme s a no brainer myself.

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            • Originally posted by Can't Catch Me View Post
              Plenty can change. I think 33/1 NRNB for the Supreme s a no brainer myself.
              Unless you've still got loads on from the first time around

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              • Apologies if this has already been posted. The horse that Gallyhill beat in his PTP (Ballybegg) won last week by 18 lengths at Hereford and looked impressive doing so.

                Fingers crossed for a good hurdling debut tomorrow

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                • Originally posted by Topofthegame2021 View Post
                  Apologies if this has already been posted. The horse that Gallyhill beat in his PTP (Ballybegg) won last week by 18 lengths at Hereford and looked impressive doing so.

                  Fingers crossed for a good hurdling debut tomorrow
                  Haha, agree with the second part for sure...

                  I'm not sure I could name a horse that's ever even had a run at Hereford though. I wasn't even aware they had a track (no disrespect intended, my own ignorance I'm sure!) so in terms of form I wouldn't be using it as a boost - one of those I chalk down as just "not a negative" rather than a positive.

                  I once met some Hereford fans in Sheffield who were up to play one of the Sheffield teams in the cup. They found it hilarious that their logo had a bull on it....so in their honour, the first (and possibly last) time I've seen the BULL emoji used properly...

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                  • On Gallyhill, i'd have thought he screamed more Ballymore or AB than here. Would hope Nicky doesn't stick him in an AB with the little experience he has.

                    Phelan's "dossier":

                    however, I spoke to Noel and he said the horse is not a flashy customer and will do the minimum required to win a race. He rode the horse in schooling races and he maintained if the horse received a proper gallop to aIack, then he would look like the real deal.


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                    • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                      Haha, agree with the second part for sure...

                      I'm not sure I could name a horse that's ever even had a run at Hereford though. I wasn't even aware they had a track (no disrespect intended, my own ignorance I'm sure!) so in terms of form I wouldn't be using it as a boost - one of those I chalk down as just "not a negative" rather than a positive.

                      I once met some Hereford fans in Sheffield who were up to play one of the Sheffield teams in the cup. They found it hilarious that their logo had a bull on it....so in their honour, the first (and possibly last) time I've seen the BULL emoji used properly...
                      Haha love it! I think that’s quite appropriate actually.

                      I was surprised by a Hereford course too and I’m sure he beat trees, but, GOD DAMN IT KEV. I missed all the prices on AI & am now scrapping around for alternatives - I’m looking through my Gallyhill tinted glasses of course!!

                      So, come 1:10PM tomorrow you’ll see me coming on here with the classic “there’s your supreme winner lads” or being overly accepting & the other classic “he’ll come on for the run”

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                      • Originally posted by Topofthegame2021 View Post

                        Haha love it! I think that’s quite appropriate actually.

                        I was surprised by a Hereford course too and I’m sure he beat trees, but, GOD DAMN IT KEV. I missed all the prices on AI & am now scrapping around for alternatives - I’m looking through my Gallyhill tinted glasses of course!!

                        So, come 1:10PM tomorrow you’ll see me coming on here with the classic “there’s your supreme winner lads” or being overly accepting & the other classic “he’ll come on for the run”
                        Haha, I'm very hopeful of Gallyhill getting in the mix too.... I look forward to the hyperbole as always .... Gallyhill = The Bull from now on...

                        (I'd definitely back for the Ballymore too though if I were you) 50/1 for that....

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                        • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                          Haha, I'm very hopeful of Gallyhill getting in the mix too.... I look forward to the hyperbole as always .... Gallyhill = The Bull from now on...

                          (I'd definitely back for the Ballymore too though if I were you) 50/1 for that....
                          I’ve done that too to try and cover it cheers! Haven’t updated the diary but will get onto it

                          Gallyhill =

                          He must be good if he gets his own emoji... either that or you’ve just jinxed him

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                          • Originally posted by jack1092 View Post
                            On Gallyhill, i'd have thought he screamed more Ballymore or AB than here. Would hope Nicky doesn't stick him in an AB with the little experience he has.

                            Phelan's "dossier":

                            however, I spoke to Noel and he said the horse is not a flashy customer and will do the minimum required to win a race. He rode the horse in schooling races and he maintained if the horse received a proper gallop to aIack, then he would look like the real deal.

                            Yeah he says the same in Mark Howard’s book on which basis you would imagine that the Supreme is not on the agenda. Although I remember reading similar comments last year in the book about Shishkin and was one of the main reasons I didn’t go in again for the Supreme after he fell on debut. Won’t be making that mistake again, especially with NRNB now available for both races.

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                            • To be fair chaps, that comment just says about a strong pace rather than up in trip?

                              Supreme should be a strong pace....


                              There can't be that many Supreme/Ballymore winners that would have been disgraced in the 'opposite' races.... we probably make a bit too much of it in general.

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                              • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                                To be fair chaps, that comment just says about a strong pace rather than up in trip?

                                Supreme should be a strong pace....


                                There can't be that many Supreme/Ballymore winners that would have been disgraced in the 'opposite' races.... we probably make a bit too much of it in general.
                                Well to be fair in OJA they namecheck the Ballymore and Albert Bartlett so they definitely don’t seem to see him excelling at the minimum trip. Whereas Shishkin was more 2 - 2m4. I’ll be surprised if starting at 2 miles in January he ends up in the Albert Bartlett but you couldn’t rule it out. Almost feel I should cover him for that now but 25s NRNB not quite enticing enough

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