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  • Originally posted by isitmarchyet View Post

    I've got Soaring Glory backed at 50/1 from December. Think I might cash and re-back NRNB, win only. Returns wouldn't be too much less but would lose the big EW part of the bet, which was the most appealing part really.


    The chance you take I suppose...

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    • Originally posted by opatcho View Post

      Decided I'll be going to the DRF next year, and will likely to skip the Festival
      I'm doing both, Cheltenham will always be no.1 and hopefully the DRF makes them sit up a bit, especially about the 5th day nonsense... Turnouts will undoubtedly have been affected this year by owners not being able to be there, normal service next year hopefully. It's disappointing there's only 8 here obviously, but it's still an interesting race, hardly like we're left with a 2/7 favourite. (Although many might think Appreciate It is such a thing amongst this field!). My main concern is that i'm on 5 of the 8 to varying degrees and I already know exactly what happens next...

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      • Soaring Glory - wears pieces

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        • Im not remotely bothered about an 8 runner supreme and am surprised others seem surprised. We were always going to have fewer runners this year than any normal year with owners not being allowed. There are normally only 5/6 with realistic chances in a supreme, and we see most of them line up on Tuesday, so let's do this!!!

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          • At the DRF, the only fields of more than 13 runners were the handicaps. The equivalents of the Champion Hurdle, Champion Chase and Gold Cup had 6, 6 and 5 runners respectively.

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            • This being only 8 runners has really messed up my plans for this race, and I wouldn’t mind any suggestions of what I may do here. My 2 main darts are AI (1pt at 28/1) and ballyadam (2 points at an avg 16/1). I’ve covered Blue Lord with one point, with help from the sky money back offer, and my good lady has let me use her sky account for which I’ve had 0.5 points on irascible - the only credible threat of the 3 outsiders IMO.

              The 2 that could end up ruining my day are metier & soaring glory (hate to be that guy but soaring glory bypassing race as suggest would have saved me a headache!!). I wasn’t realistically expecting a field that would have warranted any firms going 7 places but was hoping we might have gotten 5, the good thing about those offers was half the field were usually rags that you could discount from your calculations but you still got the benefit of them making up the numbers.

              3 places doesn’t hugely appeal, especially sub-5/1, to cover the pair of metier & SG. I’d have been happy enough to do one. I’m considering just having a straight win stake on both, staking accordingly so I’d break even on the race should either win. But I think I may wait for the day & see if appreciate it is shorter, I could lay him for a chunk to get the same result (though it would eat into my potential profit for him winning more) but it does open up the bonus scenario of ballyadam, blue lord or irascible beating him. Decisions...

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              • With all the festivals likely smaller fields and potential drying ground and lack of the usual pacesetters it could bring a few surprises this year?

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                • Originally posted by Redbridge View Post
                  With all the festivals likely smaller fields and potential drying ground and lack of the usual pacesetters it could bring a few surprises this year?
                  Unless you’ve got a horse that notoriously needs a strong pace like abacadabras for example id probably be thinking the opposite, a smaller field takes a lot of the variables with potential for mishaps & such out of the equation

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                  • I'm not sure I agree with the small field taking away from the race.

                    Adding another 6 'social runners' wouldn't add to the quality of the race IMO.



                    It also very much suits my betting approach

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                    • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                      I'm not sure I agree with the small field taking away from the race.

                      Adding another 6 'social runners' wouldn't add to the quality of the race IMO.



                      It also very much suits my betting approach
                      It would have got us 7 places with William Hill.

                      In all seriousness, 8 runners in a Cheltenham novice hurdle race is appalling. There won't be many more in the Ballymore either.

                      The novice chases (excluding NH Chase) are all likely to have less than 8 runners.

                      People are pushing for a 5th day which is baffling. It's turning into glorified greyhound racing

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                      • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post

                        It would have got us 7 places with William Hill.

                        In all seriousness, 8 runners in a Cheltenham novice hurdle race is appalling. There won't be many more in the Ballymore either.

                        The novice chases (excluding NH Chase) are all likely to have less than 8 runners.

                        People are pushing for a 5th day which is baffling. It's turning into glorified greyhound racing
                        12-16 is a normal range and with owners unable to attend + the cost of coming over, you lose social runners. All this is down to Covid, so I don't see why people are surprised after the year we've had.

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                        • Originally posted by charlie View Post

                          12-16 is a normal range and with owners unable to attend + the cost of coming over, you lose social runners. All this is down to Covid, so I don't see why people are surprised after the year we've had.
                          I agree that it's had a big impact but these fields sizes are an embarrassment.

                          British runners on Tuesday:

                          Supreme 4
                          Arkle 4
                          Champion Hurdle 4
                          Mares 6
                          NH Chase 9

                          That shows that British NH racing is in a dire state to me.

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                          • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post

                            It would have got us 7 places with William Hill.

                            In all seriousness, 8 runners in a Cheltenham novice hurdle race is appalling. There won't be many more in the Ballymore either.

                            The novice chases (excluding NH Chase) are all likely to have less than 8 runners.

                            People are pushing for a 5th day which is baffling. It's turning into glorified greyhound racing
                            Haha, that's true - although I'm still bitter about Dodging Bullets with 7 places in the Supreme not landing for me, given he won a freaking QMCC.
                            Keep it simple, 8 runners, most solid fav since Douvan


                            I personally think this year is understandable for small fields, and if they're not good enough, don't run them. Which horses are you disappointed not to be seeing in particular? There are only a handful worthy of being mentioned?

                            Just seen your post above, I agree.

                            2/9 still value in the Prestbury Cup

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                            • Timeform 1-2-3
                              1. Metier (IRE) ★★★★★
                              2. Appreciate It (IRE) ★★★★
                              3. Soaring Glory (IRE) ★★★
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                              A smaller Supreme field than usual but still a cracking contest to kickstart the Festival. Both METIER and Appreciate It bring unbeaten hurdling records to the table and Harry Fry's useful ex-Flat winner is taken to edge out Willie Mullins' much-vaunted novice and go 4-4 in this sphere after his emphatic Tolworth victory. Betfair Hurdle scorer Soaring Glory appeals as the pick of the remainder.
                              "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                              • Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post
                                Timeform 1-2-3
                                1. Metier (IRE) ★★★★★
                                2. Appreciate It (IRE) ★★★★
                                3. Soaring Glory (IRE) ★★★
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                                A smaller Supreme field than usual but still a cracking contest to kickstart the Festival. Both METIER and Appreciate It bring unbeaten hurdling records to the table and Harry Fry's useful ex-Flat winner is taken to edge out Willie Mullins' much-vaunted novice and go 4-4 in this sphere after his emphatic Tolworth victory. Betfair Hurdle scorer Soaring Glory appeals as the pick of the remainder.
                                I'd be devastated and surprised if Metier is good enough to beat Appreciate It. That would be one hell of savage start to the week for me if he is!!!

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