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Originally posted by YoungHustler
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I'm no paddock expert or speed guru! Just thought he was an interesting angle given he carried more weight and the time which the speed experts liked was similar up to the last and he won with anything in hand. I hadn't noticed that B365 hadn't priced him up as I can't bet with them. If someone asks for a price he might be a nice bet with the cash out option.
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I thought exactly the same as you as he tends to be associated with staying chasers. He did own Hawk High who won the Fred Winter but 2 mile hurdlers aren't really what he's well known for. Jeremy has sired some speedy types, Sir Gerhard and the ill fated Our Conor but no idea about the dam and whether he's a staying chaser in the making. He looks a promising horse and it will be interesting to see how he progresses.Originally posted by Outlaw View PostComment
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I see Uhtred has an entry over 2m4f in January. Bit worried as was hoping he'd be aimed at the supreme. Not necessarily a bad thing,glad he's got an entry but the lack of experience will be a concern come MarchComment
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Had really hoped to see Boothill at Kempton on Boxing Day, with him and Dusart missing from the entries it doesn't' look the strongest renewal (though it can be a bit hit and miss each year)Comment
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Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
Just searched back on Jenkins and came across this from Henderson. Some come down a year on from the hype
“He was awful the day he won at Newbury and he was awful the whole way through the season.
“He couldn’t jump a hurdle at home and he didn’t jump one at Newbury. He got away with it but even his work was rubbish. He was terrible when he ran at Kempton and then ran in the worst race you’ve seen in your life at Ffos Las.Comment
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I've just been going through the Supreme market on Oddschecker, and I'm really struggling to see how this race will shape up. I do realise there are still enough horses to come out, so anything can happen, so to speak, but the fact Ballyadam is favourite, on the back of what I personally believe to be an average Royal Bond, makes me question whether this will be a stand out year. I just don't see it yet. My thoughts on the market principles so far that we have seen:
Ballyadam - Beat what he's had to, but questions over Royal Bond form. Probably the right favourite currently, but suspect he won't be come the day.
Dusart - Won well enough on his first ever racecourse start, so this can probably be marked up. Short enough now, as he's got to back that up though.
Appreciate It - Surely Ballymore bound?
My Drogo - Has improved with every run so far this season, and won well enough on latest start in a G2, that could well turn out to be stronger than the Royal Bond, yet finds himself 14pts bigger in price than Ballyadam. Barely split by RPR's either. Interesting.
Lecales Article - Hard to know what to make of him. Will be 7, from a P2P background, personally screams to me that he'll be out in trip, but who knows! Flashed his tail plenty LTO though which isn't usually a positive.
Ganapathi - 1 from 1 for Willie Mullins and last years winning owner, Joe Donnelly. Hard to know what to make of the actual form though. Horses in behind hadn't produced an awful lot prior to finishing behind him, including a 33/1 shot finishing within 1 3/4 lengths.
Bob Olinger - Ballymore bound?
Thedevilscoachman - Could be interesting at a fair enough price, two from two for JP and Noel Meade, one in a bumper and the other over hurdles, where the 2nd placed horse, Carrolls Cottage has won since, and was also a PTP winner prior. Will keep an eye on entries.
Boothill - Was possibly going to take the If The Cap Fits route, but hasn't been given an entry in that race at Kempton over Christmas. Could currently go either way, but I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up out in trip at some point this season.
There are obviously quite a few sitting around the 20-25/1 mark, the likes of Call Me Lyreen, Ngolo, Shewearsitwell, Atholl Street, Metier, Flinteur Sacre etc... that could be of interest to many on here as well, but ultimately there are probably only 3 from the list above that interest me, at this stage. There are others at bigger prices that I find more interesting.Comment
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All sorts can happen on the day outside anyone's control of course, last years renewal was as good a reminder as any, but I do feel at this point when looking that i'm trying too hard to get Ballyadam beat. There's plenty of potential candidates, but for now he's the right favourite IMO.
For some reason I hadn't really given it much thought before, but it's just occurred to me that he'd be Cheveley Parks first ever Supreme runner wouldn't he? It's not a case of blindly backing everything in those colours (although there's far worse strategies!
) but the way their NH crew have been operating it'd be hard not to take as a big positive.
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Hoping Magic Tricks and Keskonrisk might be players in this market come March.Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View PostComment
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Yes definitely. Wrote plenty on Magic Tricks already, and I know JackieMoon33 first put me onto Keskonrisk, and is well thought of on here, so here's hoping MadmooseOriginally posted by Madmoose View Post
I really liked Magic Tricks' debut run over hurdles, off the bridle to make up a bit of ground lost at a hurdle then back on the bridle then finding plenty being ridden out.Comment
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Ballyadam beat G2 and G3 winners. The 2nd and 3rd had rprs of 141 and 137 going into it. It was a slow run race so he was never going to put a big gap behind him. My Drogo was getting 5lbs from the 2nd who came into the race with 141 rpr. I'd have the Royal Bond as stronger form overall.
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Ballyadam declared for SundayComment
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This future champions race looks an absolutely serious contest. 3 of those declared I’ve backed for the Supreme so the outcome could have big implications for me. Certainly wasn’t expected appreciate it to be declared and the lawlors of naas wonder if the intention is to duck Bob olinger in the lawlors of naasComment
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