MARTIN PIPE Conditionals Handicap Hurdle

[DenmanSacre]

I'm interested in Adamantly Chosen for this, his bumper win form is good, and the narrow second to Gringo good too, could improve heaps for his next run as he had it fairly early for a Mullins horse.

Hopefully he runs well on Saturday and then goes to the grade 1 2m at DRF. Definitely needs further so a step up at Cheltenham would make sense.

[Rigga]

I take it we won’t be seeing langer Dan in the stayers ? Have it AP

[Saxon Warrior]

I take it we won’t be seeing langer Dan in the stayers ? Have it AP

No, it was one we added to the Stayers market as a longshot, prior to learning of his injury back in October.

I cashed out when that News broke

Now it looks like he may make the Festival, and as he has a nice handicap mark, they want to win the Pipe off 140.

[Rigga]

Thanks Saxon Warrior

[Saxon Warrior]

Thanks Saxon Warrior

No problem.
I’ve backed him To Win Any Race and am hoping he runs in the Pipe

[JackieMoon33]

I don't think Saint Felicien needs another 4f, but someone is pushing that kid and dropping him info so it's worth keeping in mind.

In a pre-season video he didn’t even know Saint Felicien wasn’t a novice! I think he’s heard some whispers as he was calling him a ‘machine/rocket/aeroplane’ and he’d only run the once in France at the time.

[nortonscoin200]

Chemical Energy absolutely nailed on to get a run in the Pipe with 137.

Here's how things have panned out in the Pipe over the last 6 years: Lowest rating followed by ratings of the 1234.

2021: lowest 132....142/135/143/136
2020: lowest 136....145/138/136/137 ...You know who was on 143 (sorry to bring it up)
2019: lowest 126....145/140/139/126
2018: lowest 136....144/136/142/144
2017: lowest 135....138/135/140/138
2016: lowest 135....139/138/135/140

[fitzy78]

Chemical Energy absolutely nailed on to get a run in the Pipe with 137.

Here's how things have panned out in the Pipe over the last 6 years: Lowest rating followed by ratings of the 1234.

2021: lowest 132....142/135/143/136
2020: lowest 136....145/138/136/137 ...You know who was on 143 (sorry to bring it up)
2019: lowest 126....145/140/139/126
2018: lowest 136....144/136/142/144
2017: lowest 135....138/135/140/138
2016: lowest 135....139/138/135/140

Seems like Top Bandit is being primed for this race, Elliot is entering up hcap plots to find their english marks, 139 and cheltenham form is a standout imo

[ComplyOrDie]

Seems like Top Bandit is being primed for this race, Elliot is entering up hcap plots to find their english marks, 139 and cheltenham form is a standout imo

Yes fitzy78 he would be my idea as his one for this race too

[DenmanSacre]

All of Elliotts that have won this race raced in a graded race that season.

Column of Fire could have scuppered that but it still holds true. I couldn't have one of his in this race without that.

[nortonscoin200]

Seems like Top Bandit is being primed for this race, Elliot is entering up hcap plots to find their english marks, 139 and cheltenham form is a standout imo

I like him too fitzy but he and Chemical Energy both run in the colours of Andrew Brown - will they both target the same race.

Also, Chemical Energy has had more of a Gordon-style prep for the Pipe than Top Bandit so far - running in and winning twice over 2m 4f and contesting a graded race.

But I'm not trying to crab Top Bandit - look like he has plenty of potential, possibly more than Chemical Energy.

Might yet join you with a bandit at 5 o'clock (or thereabouts on the Friday).

[Spectre]

I like him too fitzy but he and Chemical Energy both run in the colours of Andrew Brown - will they both target the same race.

Also, Chemical Energy has had more of a Gordon-style prep for the Pipe than Top Bandit so far - running in and winning twice over 2m 4f and contesting a graded race.

But I'm not trying to crab Top Bandit - look like he has plenty of potential, possibly more than Chemical Energy.

Might yet join you with a bandit at 5 o'clock (or thereabouts on the Friday).

Isn't Top Bandit more likely for the County Hurdle. Two miles on the new course looks like it would suit perfectly. With Chemical Energy also supposedly destined for the Pipe it would seem like a more obvious destination.

[Goldentouch]

Does anyone know if any horses have ran in this race more than once and won?

I’ve backed Folcano for the Pertemps, but now I’ve seen the provisional rating only a few lbs higher (135) than it’s rating for this last year (132) , I worry that they will have another crack, considering it unseated at the 1st..

Any one else have any thoughts or stats on this? Thanks!

[nortonscoin200]

Isn't Top Bandit more likely for the County Hurdle. Two miles on the new course looks like it would suit perfectly. With Chemical Energy also supposedly destined for the Pipe it would seem like a more obvious destination.

Spot on Spectre, reckon he'd be one for the short list in the County - the style of running he showed at Cheltenham this season would be ideally suited to the County. Obviously gets two miles well too which is a big plus.

[Nwfb89]

Does anyone know if any horses have ran in this race more than once and won?

I’ve backed Folcano for the Pertemps, but now I’ve seen the provisional rating only a few lbs higher (135) than it’s rating for this last year (132) , I worry that they will have another crack, considering it unseated at the 1st..

Any one else have any thoughts or stats on this? Thanks!

Yes they have, early doors was 3rd in 2018 and then won in 2019