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The Randox Health COUNTY Handicap Hurdle

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  • #31
    Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post

    I don't think she has enough in hand off a mark of 153 to win a county hurdle.

    I'd actually say she has a better chance of finishing placed in the CH than winning the County Hurdle.
    I don’t argue she would have a better chance of 3rd in the CH than winning the county. She’s a better horse than the 3 that have been RU in the last 3 renewals off similar marks mind.

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    • #32
      I think its often forgotten Arctic Fire was dropped a stone before his county win

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Hurricane fly View Post
        I think its often forgotten Arctic Fire was dropped a stone before his county win
        Freak year that, wasn’t L’Ami Serge runner up ?
        Top 2 in race filled first 2 places…

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Hurricane fly View Post
          I think its often forgotten Arctic Fire was dropped a stone before his county win
          In fairness she’s 9lbs lower since her win & how often could you win two consecutive G1’s and get to run off 153? Probably never albeit that says all you need to know about uk 2milers

          Edit figured you meant post race after all
          Last edited by Outlaw; 24 January 2022, 12:05 AM.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Outlaw View Post
            Epatante, clearly not quite as good as she was a couple years back and can't see how she reverses form with Leading lady Honeysuckle. I'd be very interested in a NRNB price on her (albeit it's speculative, 2nd in a Ch still pays more than winning a County as you'd expect) coming here in and around her mark of 153, you could envisage a Arctic fire type effort if she where to line up. Worth noting that despite "plots" or "blots" We've had "We have a dream" 2nd off 152 in 2019, Aramon 2nd off 149 in 2020, and Petit 2nd last year off 155. If she ran to her rating she'd place at the minimum as you wouldn't be having 3 ahead of her running to 153 RPR's never mind the places on offer come the day. Crazy speculation perhaps but if anyone could request her in the market in the coming weeks it would be appreciated.
            The worst thing about this thought process is that the price you'll get quoted will be fucking shite.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Quevega View Post

              The worst thing about this thought process is that the price you'll get quoted will be fucking shite.
              For a notoriously scathing replier I’m taking that as a positive spin Q I genuinely struggle to see negatives if the “improbable” where to happen.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Outlaw View Post
                Epatante, clearly not quite as good as she was a couple years back and can't see how she reverses form with Leading lady Honeysuckle. I'd be very interested in a NRNB price on her (albeit it's speculative, 2nd in a Ch still pays more than winning a County as you'd expect) coming here in and around her mark of 153, you could envisage a Arctic fire type effort if she where to line up. Worth noting that despite "plots" or "blots" We've had "We have a dream" 2nd off 152 in 2019, Aramon 2nd off 149 in 2020, and Petit 2nd last year off 155. If she ran to her rating she'd place at the minimum as you wouldn't be having 3 ahead of her running to 153 RPR's never mind the places on offer come the day. Crazy speculation perhaps but if anyone could request her in the market in the coming weeks it would be appreciated.
                I would be worried about the switch from the old course to the new for her, she clearly likes the old and her only only attempt on the other didnt end well...might be nothing but she'd need a bit more stamina in the county too.

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                • #38
                  Sky have added her tonight with the NRNB,8s ill happily tie up a couple of points in fantasy land on that.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Outlaw View Post
                    Sky have added her tonight with the NRNB,8s ill happily tie up a couple of points in fantasy land on that.
                    Dogshit price that.
                    12-1 and above would be fair

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                      Dogshit price that.
                      12-1 and above would be fair
                      Was always going to be priced as JF at worst. She’d be half that, anyway when I get my money back I’ll buy you a Guinness to cheer you up mr Happy

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                        Dogshit price that.
                        12-1 and above would be fair


                        She's 12/1 best price for the Champion Hurdle........

                        What price should she be in that?

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post



                          She's 12/1 best price for the Champion Hurdle........

                          What price should she be in that?
                          about 16-1.

                          What price would she be if the Champion hurdle was a handicap ?
                          Without an allowance ?
                          If you look at the ratings for the 2nd and third she beat the last day, it says a lot. 20lb swing and 11lb swing
                          8-1 is laughable and not based on her chances, just the name.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Quevega View Post
                            about 16-1.

                            What price would she be if the Champion hurdle was a handicap ?
                            Without an allowance ?
                            If you look at the ratings for the 2nd and third she beat the last day, it says a lot. 20lb swing and 11lb swing
                            8-1 is laughable and not based on her chances, just the name.
                            She’s been below par this year for sure but not run in anything with solid pace, you get that in whatever you run in at the fez so she should be seen to much better light in either race tbf. Is she chucked in absolutely not but she’d have a clear class edge, CD form(tad loose with it being old vs new)and would run to mid 150s no bother.
                            Last edited by Outlaw; 28 January 2022, 08:18 AM.

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                            • #44
                              What about Adagio for this? He has C&D form, placed in every race he’s had, ran superbly behind West Cork earlier in the season giving him about a stone. He’ll carry a hefty mark, but I can’t think where else he’d go. He hasn’t run since that last Cheltenham run so has he been put away for this?

                              14s NRNB seems reasonable.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by TCH29 View Post
                                What about Adagio for this? He has C&D form, placed in every race he’s had, ran superbly behind West Cork earlier in the season giving him about a stone. He’ll carry a hefty mark, but I can’t think where else he’d go. He hasn’t run since that last Cheltenham run so has he been put away for this?

                                14s NRNB seems reasonable.
                                He'll run in the Champion Hurdle won't he?

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