The Randox Health COUNTY Handicap Hurdle

[Run4Home]

I'm thinking the latter. The County would be the last place they'll send State Man based on the reason Blue Lord skipped the race last year despite being similarly well handicapped.

Bromley said last season they had the option of County or Supreme and they would rather finish second in a supreme than run in the county so seemed as if the owners called it.

[Loubell]

Saint Roi was sent to the County as a well in novice from Willie recently. State Man could be following a similar profile off of that rating.

[Quevega]

Saint Roi was sent to the County as a well in novice from Willie recently. State Man could be following a similar profile off of that rating.

Yeah - and the same owner's of State Man had Ganapthi sent off here at 6-1 last year.

[Loubell]

Very true Quevega, I had forgotten about him. Another reason to think he will send a fancied novice here.

I don’t know the win/place rates of all Donnelly horses at the festival but it must be impressive.

[Stormez]

Certainly buy well don’t they!

[Lobos]

Ruby is unsure where he goes as well.....

I’m not sure if State Man runs here (Martin Pipe) or in the County Hurdle.

County Hurdle...
State Man is a fair horse, but he lacks experience. He should be better than a mark of 141.

[OverTheLast]

Where do we think Colonel Mustard runs?

[Lobos]

Where do we think Colonel Mustard runs?

Into the Library holding the candlestick

[KevMc]

All I know is that State Man is all hype and no substance at this point. People are going on as if he’s Gaelic Warrior.

He may well win but using Ganapathi as a guide (still running) is an easy way to the poor house. So is yard hype. You’d have piled Chacun last year based on that.
Saint Roi had at least 2 more runs and hadn’t fall when he pissed up in the county off a lower mark that State Man.

[KevMc]

Where do we think Colonel Mustard runs?

Fowler confirmed he goes here -

https://tote.co.uk/racing/features/fowler-confirms-colonel-mustard-for-county-hurdle-bid

[Quevega]

All I know is that State Man is all hype and no substance at this point. People are going on as if he’s Gaelic Warrior.

He may well win but using Ganapathi as a guide (still running) is an easy way to the poor house. So is yard hype. You’d have piled Chacun last year based on that.
Saint Roi had at least 2 more runs and hadn’t fall when he pissed up in the county off a lower mark that State Man.

Who used Ganapathi as a guide ?

It was referenced in respect of which race State Man may end up running in, not his merits.
And not backing a Mullins (graded horse) off a mark of 141 in a handicap isn't the wisest move either.
Price dependent of course.

And with regards Ganapathi, he probably ended up being held up in a race where you needed to be mid pack to front,

[Jrow]

All I know is that State Man is all hype and no substance at this point. People are going on as if he’s Gaelic Warrior.

I hope this was tongue in cheek haha

[KevMc]

I hope this was tongue in cheek haha

Not at all. Forget the hype and concentrate on the form. He’s beat a horse 16L that can’t win a maiden hurdle. That’s it.
And you want to take 5/1 at Cheltenham because Ruby tells you he’s a graded horse?
They also thought El Barra was a weapon and he’s so far only won a maiden & novice hurdle in his career.
He might not find anything off the bridle, it’s very possible.

Of course if this beast was 16/1 I could understand it but he’s not.

[Istabraq]

Not at all. Forget the hype and concentrate on the form. He’s beat a horse 16L that can’t win a maiden hurdle. That’s it.
And you want to take 5/1 at Cheltenham because Ruby tells you he’s a graded horse?
They also thought El Barra was a weapon and he’s so far only won a maiden & novice hurdle in his career.
He might not find anything off the bridle, it’s very possible.

Of course if this beast was 16/1 I could understand it but he’s not.

You have a fair argument when analysing his Irish form, but there's not much wrong with his French form...

[KevMc]

You have a fair argument when analysing his Irish form, but there's not much wrong with his French form...

Am I missing something here but he’s only ran second to Busselton? An at best 145ish horse who looks badly handicapped for the Plate.

Personally I look at previous French form as a soft guide as the entire conditions of racing in France are a world apart from those over here.