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The COUNTY Handicap Hurdle

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  • Originally posted by BookieBasher View Post
    Patrick Mullins on latest PaddyPower podcast indicates that Townend will be onboard Ethical Diamond
    telling the truth for once, well done Patrick

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    • Originally posted by BookieBasher View Post
      Patrick Mullins on latest PaddyPower podcast indicates that Townend will be onboard Ethical Diamond
      I heard off a friend he was the one PT would ride due to Mikey being work rider for Ethical. Haven’t backed him yet as was waiting to see if that was the case.

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      • I couldn't have ethical diamond at all myself

        Queue him sluicing in

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        • Ethical Diamond was one of my first backed for the Coral Cup, I then also added him for the County, however I'm not entirely happy with his mark.

          At this point I think I'd rather he didn't turn up, as all bets are NRNB

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          • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
            Ethical Diamond was one of my first backed for the Coral Cup, I then also added him for the County, however I'm not entirely happy with his mark.

            At this point I think I'd rather he didn't turn up, as all bets are NRNB
            Was one of my first handicap bets, i was the same wasn't impressed with his mark, but surely a positive with (,if) Paul on board

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            • Originally posted by Big Bucks View Post

              Was one of my first handicap bets, i was the same wasn't impressed with his mark, but surely a positive with (,if) Paul on board
              Same here. If Paul is riding, that is a massive plus for his chances and I really do hope that is the case.

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              • Pied piper declared to run on Sunday.
                I think Gordon probably wants to give him a sharpener having been off since falling heavily in October. Also gets rid of the letter lto, hopefully.

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                • Originally posted by AaronLad View Post
                  Pied piper declared to run on Sunday.
                  I think Gordon probably wants to give him a sharpener having been off since falling heavily in October. Also gets rid of the letter lto, hopefully.

                  …..it’s getting a bit close for my liking.

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                  • Originally posted by Eggs View Post


                    …..it’s getting a bit close for my liking.
                    Nothing more than a racecourse gallop eggs.
                    Constitution hill did 2 miles round kempton the other day, they reckon it will have put him spot on.
                    I reckon this could make the difference for him.

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                    • Cheltenham Stat: Nine of the last ten County Hurdles have been won by either Willie Mullins or Dan Skelton


                      The County Hurdle is as competitive a handicap as any at the Festival – with the exception of last year’s smaller field of ‘just’ 17, all the other renewals in the last ten years have attracted at least 23 runners. It’s remarkable, therefore, that two stables have dominated the race in the last decade, with the recent Mullins/Skelton monopoly broken only in 2021 by 33/1 winner Belfast Banter, trained by Peter Fahey. Mullins has won the County Hurdle seven times all told since 2010.

                      But if the identity of the winning trainer hasn’t been any surprise for most of the last ten years, the same can’t be said for the winning horse. Mullins has been responsible for the only two winning favourites in that period, Saint Roi at 11/2 in 2020 and State Man at 11/4 two years later. Both were five-year-olds who had run once in France before having just two runs for Mullins prior to the Festival, but a change in the rules means that a horse has to have run at least five times to get a run in a non-novice handicap hurdle at the Festival this year. The only other County Hurdle winner at single-figure odds in the last ten years was Superb Story who provided Skelton with his first Festival winner when successful at 8/1 in 2016.

                      But otherwise, both Mullins and Skelton have caused upsets with outsiders on more than one occasion thanks to runners who weren’t considered the yard’s first string.

                      For Mullins, that was the case with Wicklow Brave, the 25/1 winner in 2015, and Arctic Fire, the 20/1 winner two years later. Both were successful under Paul Townend at a time when Ruby Walsh was still Mullins’ first jockey. Mullins had four of the first six home in Wicklow Brave’s year when Walsh was on the stable’s main hope, Max Dynamite (14/1) in fourth.

                      Mullins had just the two runners in 2017 when Walsh partnered 11/1-shot Renneti but he could finish only eighth to former Champion Hurdle runner-up Arctic Fire who won under top weight after a 14-month absence. Townend, also successful on State Man, won his fourth County Hurdle last year on Absurdewho denied the Skelton-trained favourite L’Eau du Sud by a length. Absurde was sent off at 12/1 but the shortest priced of his stable’s five runners was Zenta, seventh at 10/1 under Mark Walsh.

                      Like Superb Story, Ch’tibello was ridden by Harry Skelton when successful at 12/1 in 2019 with the Mullins-trained favourite Whiskey Sour back in fourth. But Dan Skelton’s other two winners, Mohaayed in 2018 and Faivoir in 2023, were both successful at 33/1 under Harry Skelton’s wife Bridget Andrews. Mohaayed ran in four County Hurdles all told and had shorter-priced stablemate Spiritofthegames back in fifth when successful at the second attempt. Two years ago, Harry Skelton finished well down the field on 9/2 favourite Pembroke behind stablemate Faivoir, he too beaten in the race the previous year.

                      This year's contenders


                      Absurde figures among Mullins’ 16 County Hurdle entries this year when he would be bidding to become the first horse in the race’s history to win it twice.

                      He’s currently vying for favouritism with the J. P. McManus-owned (and therefore likely Mark Walsh-ridden) Kopeck de Mee who is very much in the Saint Roi and State Man mould, albeit meeting the bare minimum under the new rules of having run five times over hurdles, all of them in France.

                      Among the remainder of the Closutton County Hurdle entries, the Kenny Alexander-owned mares Kargese and Gala Marceau, both former Triumph Hurdle runners-up, appeal as being well-treated for what would be their first handicap.

                      Skelton has just the three entries, with Valgrand, winner of a Grade 2 novice at Cheltenham in October, the pick of the trio.

                      But the front-running Knickerbockerglory has looked at least as good as ever this season at the age of nine (one County Hurdle winner that age this century) and Williethebuilder is arguably in better heart than his last couple of runs would suggest.

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                      • ….Elliott;

                        I could run Farren Glory, Fils d’Oudairies, Ndaawi and Samui. We’re probably rolling the dice with a few of them. Farren Glory is only 1lb higher [in Britain than Ireland], which isn’t bad, but I wouldn’t say there’s anything of ours really well-handicapped.

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                        • Can't imagine too many positives to take from that run for Pied piper for county backers.

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                          • Originally posted by darlojim View Post
                            Can't imagine too many positives to take from that run for Pied piper for county backers.
                            Elliott hasn't mentioned him in recent interviews anyway, so likelihood is he wasn't ever going to turn up.

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                            • I haven't backed pied piper....
                              but what was wrong with that?
                              Got round which I'm sure was the main objective.
                              got whipped once and it was hardly a vigorous ride.
                              To me it looked a pipe opener for the big target.
                              would you have liked to have seen him whipped 5 times win the race and take a 5lbs penalty?



                              While I Get he hasnt been mentioned, I wouldn't take that as meaning he won't be coming over.

                              I think Im going to back him.

                              Any post race comments would be appreciated

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                              • Originally posted by AaronLad View Post
                                I haven't backed pied piper....
                                but what was wrong with that?
                                Got round which I'm sure was the main objective.
                                got whipped once and it was hardly a vigorous ride.
                                To me it looked a pipe opener for the big target.
                                would you have liked to have seen him whipped 5 times win the race and take a 5lbs penalty?



                                While I Get he hasnt been mentioned, I wouldn't take that as meaning he won't be coming over.

                                I think Im going to back him.

                                Any post race comments would be appreciated
                                It goes without saying that obviously a hard race this close to the festival wouldnt be ideal, but he's failed to beat a rival home there (not accounting for the double green horse), just 12 days out from the festival. He'd have to be someway close to being tuned for it if that was the plan.

                                Few quid at big prices on the machine if you think he's a chance.

                                I don't see Gordon as one who would 'hide' a horse that would be coming over either, targets wise, he's at least naming his horses for races.

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