Cloudy Glen looks a very nice trends horse for this, ran in Hennessy, before that placed over 3m3f at Cheltenham first time out. Then ran behind Stumptown last time at Cheltenham. Is 8lb below peak rating, has a bit of class, has festival form finishing 2nd in Kim Muir behind Mount Ida. 33/1
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The ULTIMA Handicap Steeplechase
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….Amirite;
’We’d love to run him, but we’re on weather watch for him as he really enjoys nicer ground. We’ll confirm him for both the Ultima and the Kim Muir and make a decision closer to the time. If the ground doesn’t come right, we’ll wait for Aintree with him.
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Originally posted by HoldenTheReins View PostMeetingofthewaters bought by JP from Paul Bryne, shocker I know.
I imagine people knew beforehand and talked him up
More likely to go for the NH Chase now perhaps?
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Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
A chance in the jockey (potentially for the worse) Mark instead of Paul (unless Patrick still rides?!)
More likely to go for the NH Chase now perhaps?Fat Jockey Patron (est. Jan 2021)
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Re the Grand National point, he still needs a run to qualify doesn’t he? Does he have to complete, or just start one more chase over the distance?
Feels like the GN is the main aim and he might be ridden with April in mind? And JP likes splitting up his horses so I can’t see him going NHC now.
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Originally posted by Mighty View PostRe the Grand National point, he still needs a run to qualify doesn’t he? Does he have to complete, or just start one more chase over the distance?
Feels like the GN is the main aim and he might be ridden with April in mind? And JP likes splitting up his horses so I can’t see him going NHC now.
I thought the same with Corach Rambler last year. That he'd be ridden in mind.
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Originally posted by TigerRolllllll View Post
JP has one for that ….reckon they fancy Ultima….he loves a Hcap & it’s better GN prep
Never a fan of a change of silks contracting a price which is not a completely fair assessment of what happened here, but also is factually what happened
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Eldorado Allen (FR) Jungle Boogie (IRE)
Run Wild Fred (IRE)
Stumptown (IRE)
Monbeg Genius (IRE)
The Goffer (IRE)
Meetingofthewaters (IRE)
Embittered (IRE)
Giovinco (IRE)
Chambard (FR)
Minella Crooner (IRE)
Glengouly (FR)
Kitty's Light
Gevrey (FR)
Eklat de Rire (FR)
Victtorino (FR)
Busselton (FR)
Trelawne
Highland Hunter (IRE)
Annual Invictus (IRE)
Twig
Chianti Classico (IRE)
Fakir d'Alene (FR)
Shakem Up'arry (IRE)
Amirite (IRE)
Cloudy Glen (IRE)
Macs Charm (IRE)
Found On (IRE)
Lord du Mesnil (FR)
Excello (FR)
Famous Bridge (IRE)
City Chief (IRE)
Chavez (IRE)
Theatre Man (IRE)
Apple Away (IRE)
Weveallbeencaught (IRE)
Git Maker (FR)
Grozni (FR)
Java Point (IRE)
Back On The Lash
Dom of Mary (FR)
Risk And Roll (FR)
Jamaico (FR)
WIll Apple Away sneak in? There's a fair few above her I'd expect not to run.
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Seen it mentioned a few times around here and on previews about the Irish not winning this race often.
Few weeks ago I mentioned that the early signs were that the Irish looked strong this year and the UK runners look weak, this is not uncommon in most races now of course including the Grand National which is effectively the Irish National "held at Aintree".
To put the Ultima stat in perspective though.
In both of Un Temp pour Touts wins, the Irish only had 3 runners, and in the year after in 2018 when Coo Star Sivola won, they had jack shit - zero.
Only looked at those three years, but it's fairly clear the Irish dominance and volume of runners has been on the up in recent seasons.
Looking at this years 6 day stage I'd guess they'll have at least 10, maybe half the field.
And a UK trained horse will probably still win
Hopefully not.
My team is now down to just the 9
The Goffer 2ptew5 27-1 WH & 2pt 13-1 WH
Busselton 1ptew5 40-1 Sky
Theatre Man 2pt 14-1 Sky
Monbeg Genius 1pt 20-1 PP
Meetingofthewaters 3pt 10-1 PP
Apple Away 1ptew5 25-1 B365
Amirite 1ptew5 25-1 B365
Giovinco 2pt 22-1 WH
Chianti Classico 1pt 14-1 B365 1pt 20-1 WH
Hoping Theatre Man goes for the Plate and Jonjo don't bother running Monbeg but added at 20's yesterday as it would sicken me if it won.
I expect Lucinda to only run the one as well.
And one or two may opt out for other targets due to the ground.
So hopefully I end up with around 5/6 runners which is fine, and then I may add one on the day.
I have had a small stakes bet at triple figures on Dom of Mary but he likely won't get in. Think Bridgwater would prefer this race over the Kim Muir though. Or Midlands National.
And I have Stumptown in some multiples. Don't think he's well in but is a danger.
Added Busselton yesterday and the 40-1 still around after Joseph mentioned he might run. He is good value based on a lot of his back form. IMO
Most of the others have been discussed/mentioned on here plenty enough.
Trelawne & Twig would be potential bum twitchers for me but are on the reserve list to be backed if my numbers thin out and they get declared.
Or might just risk it. We'll see.
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