The ULTIMA Handicap Steeplechase

[Kevloaf]

Noble Yeats is already my biggest winner of the race, but want to get stuck into him more, the one thing stopping me is his jockey.

Waley-Cohen isn't that bad, is he?

Gold Cup winner?

Sounds like you're already committed?

His record at hunting around placing at Aintree makes him a safe pair of hands.

It wouldn't put me off particularly.

[ComplyOrDie]

Gold Cup winner?

Sounds like you're already committed?

His record at hunting around placing at Aintree makes him a safe pair of hands.

It wouldn't put me off particularly.

He's not ridden a lot in recent seasons (I don't think), so was just having doubts about him, but you are quite right about him being a Gold Cup winner, he can't be half bad, really.

I am committed to him a fair bit, yeah.

[JackieMoon33]

He's not ridden a lot in recent seasons (I don't think), so was just giving doubts about him, but you are QUOTE right about him being a Gold Cup winner, he can't be half bad, really.

I am committed to him a fair bit, yeah.

Trust in the horse I’d say. There are probably some pro’s out there that I’d prefer less so I’d keep the faith.

[Lobos]

If a horse is declared for The Ultima tomorrow and is balloted out, can it then be declared for another Handicap later in the week or is it game over ?

[Jrow]

Is being too high in the handicap classed as balloted out too? Like Floueur in the Kim Muir?

[Kevloaf]

Is being too high in the handicap classed as balloted out too? Like Floueur in the Kim Muir?

No, unfortunately not.

[DenmanSacre]

If a horse is declared for The Ultima tomorrow and is balloted out, can it then be declared for another Handicap later in the week or is it game over ?

I believe so. You assuming Teddy will keep the entry just in case?

[On The Blind Side]

CoT 100% going Kim Muir

[Jrow]

No, unfortunately not.

Cheers mate

[DenmanSacre]

CoT 100% going Kim Muir

Even though I lose my antepost bet in this race, it's the right decision. If Biddick is on, he can stalk the rest, picking them off as they fall out the pack and make his challenge late.

[Quevega]

Even though I lose my antepost bet in this race, it's the right decision. If Biddick is on, he can stalk the rest, picking them off as they fall out the pack and make his challenge late.

The problem for Come on Teddy in the Kim Muir is I think he'd have to be a 155+ horse to beat the handful of Irish at the top of the market, as at least one of them probably is.
But I suppose this might equate to about 10lb improvement at the weights.

[Lobos]

I believe so. You assuming Teddy will keep the entry just in case?

That was my thoughts as keeping to his usual Jockey must be a positive. That said, they booked Biddick early (who is a top amateur) and he's already been over and sat on him so they've got every angle covered. He'll definitely be running at the festival whatever the race. I'll wait now for the 8 places to play him as I don't think his price will retract that much.

[DenmanSacre]

The problem for Come on Teddy in the Kim Muir is I think he'd have to be a 155+ horse to beat the handful of Irish at the top of the market, as at least one of them probably is.
But I suppose this might equate to about 10lb improvement at the weights.

I don't think he's the likeliest winner but can see him running into a place. The winner might run 10+ pounds better than their rating but those in 3rd/4th/5th tend to run to their rating or a couple of pounds above and off 137 there's a bit of scope for improvement with the step up and being at Cheltenham.

[Quevega]

I don't think he's the likeliest winner but can see him running into a place. The winner might run 10+ pounds better than their rating but those in 3rd/4th/5th tend to run to their rating or a couple of pounds above and off 137 there's a bit of scope for improvement with the step up and being at Cheltenham.

Yeah, I just think this race (Kim Muir) looks hotter at the top with potential improvement, than the Ultima for example.
I want him to run in the Muir as I have him for the Ultima and have too many at the minute
I could easily not bet him in the Muir and take it on the chin if he chinned one of mine.

[Madmoose]

The problem for Come on Teddy in the Kim Muir is I think he'd have to be a 155+ horse to beat the handful of Irish at the top of the market, as at least one of them probably is.
But I suppose this might equate to about 10lb improvement at the weights.

He’s got an engine but he is a poor jumper, could be top 4 but he won’t beat the Irish in the KM