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The ULTIMA Handicap Steeplechase

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  • So going through the card again since my selection SOTG ain't going here I'm slowly starting to think Kauto riko has a chance, but the only thing thats putting me off is the horse is running or meant to be running on the 5th March. If it did win lets say I'm just thinking if it would go up 5lbs for it plus being closed to the festival unless connections are thinking of skipping the festival and aiming for another race?
    Last edited by Nathaniel99999; 3 March 2022, 11:17 PM.

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    • Originally posted by Nathaniel99999 View Post
      So going through the card again since my selection SOTG ain't going here I'm slowly starting to think Kauto riko has a chance, but the only thing thats putting me off is the horse is running or meant to be running on the 5th March. If it did win lets say I'm just thinking if it would go up 5lbs for it plus being closed to the festival unless connections are thinking of skipping the festival and aiming for another race?
      Ive been all over this horse. But that’s not ideal at tbh. If he runs this weekend, sadly the dream is over lol

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      • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

        Yeah I had Court Maid that day,
        And backed Storm Control the last day at Donny.

        He's not my mate at the minute, but I do like daft horses like that.
        Hes not for the faint hearted

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        • Originally posted by EnvoiAlien View Post

          Was wondering myself if they keep Frodon in to keep Threeunderthroughfive, I mean Fury Road is unlikely to come here, The Shunter 100% doesn't come here so if they pulled Frodon early everyones weight rises, leave it till the day then TUTF gets to run off 11st which would be a lovely racing weight or am I totally barking up the wrong tree here.
          You have to despair at English trainers these days. TUTF has a great weight for this race and would go very close, even with Nichols record. He's no chance of winning the RSA.

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          • Originally posted by doctorwu View Post

            You have to despair at English trainers these days. TUTF has a great weight for this race and would go very close, even with Nichols record. He's no chance of winning the RSA.
            It is the onwers insisting he runs in the RSA, notwithstanding Paul pretty obviously telling them he won't lay a glove on BMG, let alone anything across the Irish Sea.

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            • I don't think we should bemoan any owner wanting to go for a grade 1 instead of a handicap. I'd say the lack of this mentality is a fundamental issue with English racing.

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              • Originally posted by Hurricane fly View Post
                I don't think we should bemoan any owner wanting to go for a grade 1 instead of a handicap. I'd say the lack of this mentality is a fundamental issue with English racing.
                Not sure this is true, the Irish have cleaned up by sending grade 1 horses to handicaps!

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                • Originally posted by Stormez View Post

                  Not sure this is true, the Irish have cleaned up by sending grade 1 horses to handicaps!
                  Not in the Ultima they haven't...........1 win in about 25 years ??

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                  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                    Not in the Ultima they haven't...........1 win in about 25 years ??
                    Yeah shocking record in this race, even taking into account the limited number of runners they have.

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                    • Originally posted by Stormez View Post

                      Yeah shocking record in this race, even taking into account the limited number of runners they have.
                      20 odd entered this year to put a line through

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                      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                        20 odd entered this year to put a line through
                        Don’t mind an Irish horse winning this year, as long as it’s the one I’ve backed!

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                        • Originally posted by Stormez View Post

                          Don’t mind an Irish horse winning this year, as long as it’s the one I’ve backed!
                          One may break the curse one day!! Won't be touching any myself.

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                          • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                            20 odd entered this year to put a line through
                            to just rule them all out.

                            What is the logic to the trend? Why would Irish horses not win the race? Aside 'the curse'...

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                            • It's normally for horses that would go to the Irish Grand National which unlike Aintree is at a fixed date each year - Easter Monday, although that moves each year!!!

                              Bear with me.

                              This year Easter Monday falls on 18 April, one day shy of 5 weeks. So, it's a slightly longer gap. Plus there are many Irish trainers fancying their chances because of the 'Irish dominance'. Let's see on Wednesday who gets declared at the 5 day stage. Most pundits still seem to be sticking to UK horses, but we'll see.

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                              • This looks like the 1st year the Irish have shown any interest in this race. Well we know what happens when they do show interest......
                                The English handicappers will be running off to Aintree soon. They could have their own sub-standard festival.

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