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The ULTIMA Handicap Steeplechase

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  • Fair play. Sounds like he has a chance of getting in at least then. Maybe I should look further down the page than I have been

    Find the period between initial entries and decs hard work in the handicaps tbh!

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    • Probably a better indication at forfeit stage next week.

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      • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

        He'd get in most years on his rating, but not sure about where 63 would be on an average year, someone did do these things at some point and may have an idea.
        There are many horses double and triple entered though and a very quick run through gave me around 30 almost certain not to run. This leaves quite a few to come out still but entirely possible.
        Based on recent history should have no trouble getting in:

        Last 5 years of Ultima (excluding Covid impacted 2021)

        2020 : Lowest Rating 129 88th of 90 entries
        2019 : 140 71st of 105
        2018 : Race didn't fill
        2017 : 134 87th of 101
        2016 : 131 97th of 105

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        • Originally posted by RufusFlynn View Post
          The couple that i think are interesting for this are:

          Our Power
          • wears headgear
          • aged 8
          • ran at last years festival
          • novice chaser
          • GB novice - won a hurdle worth >?10k to the winner
          • ran in last 60 days
          • stepped up to 3m in Coral Trophy

          Storm Control
          • wears headgear
          • ran at last Festival
          • best RPR over 3miles
          • Form at Cheltenham is 115P
          • Coming back into form
          • ran in last 60 days
          Both UK trained, in a race that has a history of going the way of smaller trainers. Sam Thomas has a good string this year and in in good form. Kerry Lee's horses on a good day are more than capable. hard to pin down exactly what is heading here with many having multiple entries. The Irish don't tend to target this race although that could change this year with GE having a few entries seemingly heading this way. The above two just seem to meet a lot of the trends.




          Storm Control declared for Donny on Saturday FYI. Very winnable looking race.

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          • Nicholls doesn't sound that keen on running Frodon in this. Will help a few of those lower down who might have been running out of the handicap.

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            • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
              Nicholls doesn't sound that keen on running Frodon in this. Will help a few of those lower down who might have been running out of the handicap.
              Was wondering myself if they keep Frodon in to keep Threeunderthroughfive, I mean Fury Road is unlikely to come here, The Shunter 100% doesn't come here so if they pulled Frodon early everyones weight rises, leave it till the day then TUTF gets to run off 11st which would be a lovely racing weight or am I totally barking up the wrong tree here.

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              • Originally posted by EnvoiAlien View Post

                Was wondering myself if they keep Frodon in to keep Threeunderthroughfive, I mean Fury Road is unlikely to come here, The Shunter 100% doesn't come here so if they pulled Frodon early everyones weight rises, leave it till the day then TUTF gets to run off 11st which would be a lovely racing weight or am I totally barking up the wrong tree here.
                Hes running in the RSA by the sounds of it

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                • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

                  Hes running in the RSA by the sounds of it
                  Aye does look that way, but Nicholls isn't keen to send 2 good chances in against each other so maybe he has a plan to try to talk Mcneils out of that, I'm thinking out loud here more than anything tbh.

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                  • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post

                    Storm Control declared for Donny on Saturday FYI. Very winnable looking race.
                    Yeah, did see the entry and if he runs then won’t be for him here anyway. If he is pulled from Saturdays race then he would still be of interest.

                    Will back him on Sat if he runs. Ta

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                    • Originally posted by EnvoiAlien View Post

                      Aye does look that way, but Nicholls isn't keen to send 2 good chances in against each other so maybe he has a plan to try to talk Mcneils out of that, I'm thinking out loud here more than anything tbh.
                      They said again today that Kiltealy is the one here, The Wolf for the Scottish National and TUTF to the Brown Advisory.

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                      • Originally posted by RufusFlynn View Post

                        Yeah, did see the entry and if he runs then won’t be for him here anyway. If he is pulled from Saturdays race then he would still be of interest.

                        Will back him on Sat if he runs. Ta
                        Leave a lay in running for him at 1.1 or something

                        Has a habit of completely pulling himself up if he gets to the front too soon

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                        • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

                          Leave a lay in running for him at 1.1 or something

                          Has a habit of completely pulling himself up if he gets to the front too soon
                          Was just about to post exactly the same.
                          The run the last day, and jockey was about as bad an example of a horse pulling himself up,as I've seen.
                          Even the young jockey should have known, and he really ought to know this time round, but so will the other jockeys - I know what I'd do if on another horse.
                          Be a fun race to watch.

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                          • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                            Was just about to post exactly the same.
                            The run the last day, and jockey was about as bad an example of a horse pulling himself up,as I've seen.
                            Even the young jockey should have known, and he really ought to know this time round, but so will the other jockeys - I know what I'd do if on another horse.
                            Be a fun race to watch.
                            I backed him a couple of years ago

                            10 clear on the snaff, literally stopped dead, other horse catches up then he goes again and wins

                            Had a minor coronary

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                            • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

                              I backed him a couple of years ago

                              10 clear on the snaff, literally stopped dead, other horse catches up then he goes again and wins

                              Had a minor coronary
                              Yeah I had Court Maid that day,
                              And backed Storm Control the last day at Donny.

                              He's not my mate at the minute, but I do like daft horses like that.

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                              • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                                Yeah I had Court Maid that day,
                                And backed Storm Control the last day at Donny.

                                He's not my mate at the minute, but I do like daft horses like that.
                                One of my favourite horses to watch. Daft as a brush but he runs his heart out.

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