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The ULTIMA Handicap Steeplechase

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  • Had a look on gaultstats last night and it says this about the ultima:

    Winner wasn't unplaced in this years 3m Kempton Chase on Adonis day. Has run in the last 60 days

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    • Originally posted by Ray View Post
      Had a look on gaultstats last night and it says this about the ultima:

      Winner wasn't unplaced in this years 3m Kempton Chase on Adonis day. Has run in the last 60 days
      Does he also need to run his best race in this chase aswell? I know he could probably do with a few more LBS so going close 2nd 3rd or 4th would be ideal surely, that would be his best rpr to date over 3 miles hopefully

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      • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

        Depends on the staff in Ladbrokes, IMO.
        You can place ante post bets on betting terminals in shops

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        • Originally posted by AaronLad View Post

          You can place ante post bets on betting terminals in shops
          The Ladbrokes and Betfred terminals don’t have ante post horse racing on them whenever I’ve tried it’s just at William hill?

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          • Originally posted by AaronLad View Post

            You can place ante post bets on betting terminals in shops
            Yeah the machines don't do antepost. I asked over the counter but they didn't have a price for any of the handicaps...

            Getting really tired of bookmaker nonesense

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            • Originally posted by SharpHat View Post

              Yeah the machines don't do antepost. I asked over the counter but they didn't have a price for any of the handicaps...

              Getting really tired of bookmaker nonesense
              I placed an AP bet yesterday in Betfred. They have all 28 races NRNB. Also the same price as quoted on oddschecker.

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              • I know there is no need to go against GQ (thanks again for that Spectre, awesome work ) but could anyone help me get Cepage priced up with Skybet please?

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                • I’m aware that this race is a closed book on the forum with GQ now…..BUT…

                  …Is anybody else completely baffled why Richard Bandey is running Saint Palais against Ahoy tomorrow in a 4 runner G2 when he could target this off 145 with a very upwardly mobile profile?? I’d fancy him to run a big race in this but if he bustles AS tomo, surely he’ll go up 5lbs

                  Big day out for the owners & trainer at the olympics of the sport….he’s not entered in any of the festival novices so no other options…

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                  • Originally posted by Splinterboy82 View Post
                    I’m aware that this race is a closed book on the forum with GQ now…..BUT…

                    …Is anybody else completely baffled why Richard Bandey is running Saint Palais against Ahoy tomorrow in a 4 runner G2 when he could target this off 145 with a very upwardly mobile profile?? I’d fancy him to run a big race in this but if he bustles AS tomo, surely he’ll go up 5lbs

                    Big day out for the owners & trainer at the olympics of the sport….he’s not entered in any of the festival novices so no other options…
                    Winner gets over ?25k tomorrow, which is more than a 2nd place in the Ultima. Only a small number of runners and Ahoy Senor could easily put in a bad one. He is also only a 5 year old so plenty of time in his career for big handicaps. Jockey may also be told to not get too near Ahoy Senor if he is still there with 2 to go and the other two have wilted to preserve the mark.

                    I would prefer the owners of horses like Saint Palais to be taking in decent novice graded races instead of waiting for a Cheltenham handicap - the good ones only have one year of novice chasing and they can pick up some easy prize money by sticking to the novice graded chases.

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                    • Originally posted by DenmanSacre View Post


                      I'd be inching toward the Musselburgh race as Pay The Piper and Friend or Foe should have too much pace for him and as a class 2, even a win may not see his mark rise too much.

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                      Jumped brilliantly and dug in. Hopefully only gets a few pounds but I think he may be smashed by the handicapper now.

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                      • well that was stupid from Kiltealy Briggs.

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                        • Originally posted by doctorwu View Post
                          well that was stupid from Kiltealy Briggs.
                          Jamie Snowden = Idiot.

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                          • Originally posted by doctorwu View Post
                            well that was stupid from Kiltealy Briggs.
                            Take it you also liked him? He would have been a stone or more in off his current mark. Let's hope the handicapper isn't too harsh but could end up high 140s now.

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                            • Originally posted by DenmanSacre View Post

                              Jumped brilliantly and dug in. Hopefully only gets a few pounds but I think he may be smashed by the handicapper now.
                              Yep DS, nice round of jumping and got some guts for sure.
                              Just have to wait and see re the handicapper, bets on already anyway so what will be will be.

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                              • Originally posted by DenmanSacre View Post

                                Take it you also liked him? He would have been a stone or more in off his current mark. Let's hope the handicapper isn't too harsh but could end up high 140s now.
                                He's going to be 144 minimum isn't he - Pay The Piper an admirably consistent sort.

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