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The ULTIMA Handicap Steeplechase

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  • Might as well close this now I suppose? Unless people want to fight over place place

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    • Still be plenty to chat about I reckon!!
      Last edited by Carnage at Taunton; 2 February 2022, 07:02 AM.

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      • Actually maybe not!!
        Last edited by Carnage at Taunton; 2 February 2022, 07:11 AM.

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        • Could anyone kindly request Caribean Boy for here please? Only priced up with Hills and Unibet. Preferably NRNB firms. Cheers

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          • Originally posted by SamuelP View Post
            Could anyone kindly request Caribean Boy for here please? Only priced up with Hills and Unibet. Preferably NRNB firms. Cheers
            Has Nicky said anything about him? I’d really like him for this, went as far as to pick him for the antepost comp!

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            • Originally posted by Stormez View Post

              Has Nicky said anything about him? I’d really like him for this, went as far as to pick him for the antepost comp!
              No, not heard anything. Just think there's plenty of improvement in him over a step up in trip. He's 4lb lower than he was last year, decent win lto over 3 miles, and I like how he finished his race in the plate last year. May not even be a target, but no harm done with nrnb. Hoping for bigger than the 20s with Will Hill

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              • Originally posted by SamuelP View Post

                No, not heard anything. Just think there's plenty of improvement in him over a step up in trip. He's 4lb lower than he was last year, decent win lto over 3 miles, and I like how he finished his race in the plate last year. May not even be a target, but no harm done with nrnb. Hoping for bigger than the 20s with Will Hill
                Pretty much echos my thoughts on him.

                Looking at his entries though I think the Grand National is his likely target. Entered in the National trial at Haydock over 3m4f on Feb 19th, and the Coral Trophy over 3m at Kempton on Feb 26th.

                But as you say no harm with NRNB.

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                • Originally posted by Stormez View Post

                  Pretty much echos my thoughts on him.

                  Looking at his entries though I think the Grand National is his likely target. Entered in the National trial at Haydock over 3m4f on Feb 19th, and the Coral Trophy over 3m at Kempton on Feb 26th.

                  But as you say no harm with NRNB.
                  Yep the Prize money for the Coral Chase has been increased by 50k this year making it worth significantly more than the Ultima so interesting to see if any Ultima horses take in this instead. It’s possible horses could attempt both but there’s only 17 days in between.

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                  • Originally posted by Rooster Booster View Post

                    Yep the Prize money for the Coral Chase has been increased by 50k this year making it worth significantly more than the Ultima so interesting to see if any Ultima horses take in this instead. It’s possible horses could attempt both but there’s only 17 days in between.
                    Galahad Quest is entered in that.

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                    • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                      Galahad Quest is entered in that.
                      Yes ...I was almost afraid to mention it...fingers crossed they aren’t tempted...

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                      • Originally posted by Rooster Booster View Post

                        Yes ...I was almost afraid to mention it...fingers crossed they aren’t tempted...
                        Spectre wants him to run again and in a 3mile race to prove he truly stays so it fits in well doesn't it ?

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                        • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                          Spectre wants him to run again and in a 3mile race to prove he truly stays so it fits in well doesn't it ?
                          Yeah, just the 17 days thing would be a concern, but not insurmountable.
                          And it's worth miles more.

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                          • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                            Spectre wants him to run again and in a 3mile race to prove he truly stays so it fits in well doesn't it ?
                            Can I plead the 5th

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                            • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                              Yeah, just the 17 days thing would be a concern, but not insurmountable.
                              And it's worth miles more.
                              Only 4 days difference from the Exeter race that CSS ran in so not that much in it.

                              The Coral chase does look hot though so if he were to win it then the danger would be he'd go up a big amount in the ratings.

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                              • Cloudy Glen was my main pick for this big time.
                                But cannot be sure they'll run him here. The owners may just let Vintage run on his own.
                                I know Spectre mentioned his mark being too high, but it's not.
                                He is now only rated 146.

                                He's only 6lb higher for those 2 excellent pieces of staying chase form, as both were off 140.
                                He's just inconsistent, and may not run.
                                But having ran on Saturday then it may fit into the plan if the National is a definite aim, which you'd imagine it is.

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