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The Fred Winter Juvenile Handicap Hurdle

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  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

    That'll go tomorrow as well when weights are released
    Imagine they reassess on that weird clause about "interest in the horse" and we're up to our nuts in a horse not particularly well in.

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    • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

      That'll go tomorrow as well when weights are released

      ….pity, I think it’s certain to be included in our final Yankee which I expect will be posted after the weights. Took a bit of a flyer earlier that 3 of the selections are GW, RWF & TR.
      Last edited by Eggs; 28 February 2022, 04:55 PM.

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      • I don't think the weight release changes anything re Gaelic Warrior, we know what his mark is, there is the potential for one or two others to get taxed higher than predicted which might enhance the favourites chance I guess...

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        • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post
          I don't think the weight release changes anything re Gaelic Warrior, we know what his mark is, there is the potential for one or two others to get taxed higher than predicted which might enhance the favourites chance I guess...
          We might know because we know where to look ! The average punter doesn't have a clue and will rely on the media to say how well he is handicapped tomorrow and his price will drop again.

          100/30 into 11/4 with PP/Betfair as I speak and 4/1 gone with Boyles. He's going to be a humongous gamble.

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          • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

            We might know because we know where to look ! The average punter doesn't have a clue and will rely on the media to say how well he is handicapped tomorrow and his price will drop again.

            100/30 into 11/4 with PP/Betfair as I speak and 4/1 gone with Boyles. He's going to be a humongous gamble.
            He will drift on the day and be one to take on, he only goes off short if Willie has won two or three earlier that day.

            Its Cheltenham so will be taken on by firms.

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            • Originally posted by Madmoose View Post

              He will drift on the day and be one to take on, he only goes off short if Willie has won two or three earlier that day.

              Its Cheltenham so will be taken on by firms.
              Think he'll be as short as 7/4 on the day so a risk hoping Mullins has a bad one ??

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              • Originally posted by Madmoose View Post

                He will drift on the day and be one to take on, he only goes off short if Willie has won two or three earlier that day.

                Its Cheltenham so will be taken on by firms.

                I'd be very surprised if after declarations someone doesn't go 5-1 or bigger.
                As to what happens in the half hour before the race itself, will depend a little on results that day.

                People tend to forget at this time that the prices are 99% under valued, unless it's a race where the runners can be thinned out. Or worth covering some, in anticipation of defections.

                The boodles is not the best for that sort of thing, aside from the obvious triumph horses, and the market appears to be covering that anyway.
                The approximate antepost over round for the boodles looks to be the worst of all the races IMO. By a fair bit.

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                • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                  Think he'll be as short as 7/4 on the day so a risk hoping Mullins has a bad one ??
                  No chance, Betfred will be boosting it to 4/1 or so on the morning I can imagine.

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                  • Originally posted by Madmoose View Post

                    No chance, Betfred will be boosting it to 4/1 or so on the morning I can imagine.
                    Blimey!! I'll have to go in again if they do !!

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                    • I believe Icare Allen is Triumph bound as things stand so may be one for NRNB for those interested in it for this.

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                      • Hills now just gone 11/4 GW.

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                        • Time to dip in for a Ricci Trixie!! ADV, vauban and garlic warrior

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                          • Originally posted by Guinness Village View Post
                            Time to dip in for a Ricci Trixie!! ADV, vauban and garlic warrior
                            Ricci is back !!

                            Garlic Warrior

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                            • Originally posted by Madmoose View Post

                              No chance, Betfred will be boosting it to 4/1 or so on the morning I can imagine.
                              Yeah. up to a tenner

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                              • Originally posted by Quevega View Post


                                I'd be very surprised if after declarations someone doesn't go 5-1 or bigger.
                                As to what happens in the half hour before the race itself, will depend a little on results that day.

                                People tend to forget at this time that the prices are 99% under valued, unless it's a race where the runners can be thinned out. Or worth covering some, in anticipation of defections.

                                The boodles is not the best for that sort of thing, aside from the obvious triumph horses, and the market appears to be covering that anyway.
                                The approximate antepost over round for the boodles looks to be the worst of all the races IMO. By a fair bit.
                                Backing him now with B365 would give you cover either way as they are 100/30 NRNB and BOG.

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