The Fred Winter Juvenile Handicap Hurdle

[Eggs]

Number 4 is a given, right? "All 12 winners of the race since 2013 have made at least three starts over hurdles before lining up at the Festival"

Don't horses require 3 runs to get a mark Eggs ? or have I got that wrong?

….yep, I think so. I’ll remove that bit.

[ComplyOrDie]

….yep, I think so. I’ll remove that bit.

No worries, mate, thanks for doing them though, love a trend myself, not all, but some, so will keep checking in on them as you put them up

[Eggs]

No worries, mate, thanks for doing them though, love a trend myself, not all, but some, so will keep checking in on them as you put them up

….i think I’ve updated trend analysis for all of the handicap threads (with the exception of the ‘new’ handicaps), hopefully FJs will find them useful.

[chunker86]

Number 4 is a given, right? "All 12 winners of the race since 2013 have made at least three starts over hurdles before lining up at the Festival"

Don't horses require 3 runs to get a mark Eggs ? or have I got that wrong?

That's a trend that not even Willie Mullins can bust!!

[JamieSensible]

I'm still considering Holy See for this race, currently has an Irish mark of 119, likely to get couple of lb of Irish tax.

The question is, if I back him antepost and he doesn't get in due to the weights, do I get my money back or is it a loser?

[TigerRolllllll]

I'm still considering Holy See for this race, currently has an Irish mark of 119, likely to get couple of lb of Irish tax.

The question is, if I back him antepost and he doesn't get in due to the weights, do I get my money back or is it a loser?

Loser sadly

[chunker86]

Loser sadly

if they declare him at the 48 hr stage and he doesn't get it in because he's too low a rating is this not balloted out, and therefore a void bet and refund even under ante post terms?

[Lobos]

if they declare him at the 48 hr stage and he doesn't get it in because he's too low a rating is this not balloted out, and therefore a void bet and refund even under ante post terms?

Yep, money back in that scenario.

[Big Bucks]

if they declare him at the 48 hr stage and he doesn't get it in because he's too low a rating is this not balloted out, and therefore a void bet and refund even under ante post terms?

Yeah that would be my understanding too.

[Lobos]

Yeah that would be my understanding too.

Bookies must have millions just sitting there for balloted horses just waiting to be picked up .

[Eggs]

….i know some FJs like their trends so for reference, I’ve updated the trend analysis for this race in post #1.