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The BOODLES Fred Winter Juvenile Handicap Hurdle

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  • #76
    Originally posted by RoadToCheltenham View Post
    Champion Green is an absolute maniac - would need to settle a lot better to win a Boodles, you'd imagine...

    HMS Seahorse ran credibly again today, given his form behind Pied Piper/Vauban and now another nice Elliott horse, he is worth a punt at 20/1 with 365.
    He was a walloped 15L behind them though... not like he's ran on sneakily and gotten close?

    Surprised if you can't better that 20/1, 4 places, in the next 8 weeks with at least some concessions.

    Love Paul Nolan as well, but it doesn't scream like a horse that'll be a steamer in the ante post markets to me.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

      He was a walloped 15L behind them though... not like he's ran on sneakily and gotten close?

      Surprised if you can't better that 20/1, 4 places, in the next 8 weeks with at least some concessions.

      Love Paul Nolan as well, but it doesn't scream like a horse that'll be a steamer in the ante post markets to me.
      Perhaps not, but Nolan will know exactly where his stand against Elliott's and if there is any money for it I'd be taking notice.
      Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Spectre View Post

        Perhaps not, but Nolan will know exactly where his stand against Elliott's and if there is any money for it I'd be taking notice.
        Any money for it and I'm sure FJ will alert us

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

          Any money for it and I'm sure FJ will alert us
          It was 40's before the run at the weekend and cut to 20's straight after.
          I was annoyed as I had it pencilled in for a big price NRNB or exchange bet.
          someone couldn't wait.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Quevega View Post

            It was 40's before the run at the weekend and cut to 20's straight after.
            I was annoyed as I had it pencilled in for a big price NRNB or exchange bet.
            someone couldn't wait.
            Yeah that's fair enough. 40s now I'd have done more of a check... but I don't think 20s is worth looking in to at this stage.

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            • #81
              that Pied Piper entry on Saturday screams Boodles
              Long bitcoin, long gold, long silver, long g/s opening day Cheltenham Festival
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              • #82
                Originally posted by Brooksie View Post
                that Pied Piper entry on Saturday screams Boodles
                If he's declared. If they declare Ebaraza (or whatever the other one is called), that screams Boodles for him instead

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                • #83
                  No Pied Piper, Ebasari runs though.
                  Long bitcoin, long gold, long silver, long g/s opening day Cheltenham Festival

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Odin View Post

                    If he's declared. If they declare Ebaraza (or whatever the other one is called), that screams Boodles for him instead
                    Ive backed Ebasari for both. Its tight but he could just make 3 runs for Boodles.

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                    • #85
                      Ebasari could get another run in 3 weeks time say 12th Feb weekend, that'll give him 30 odd days.....

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                      • #86
                        Didn’t catch the race but looks like Ebasari was whacked… what were people’s thoughts?

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Might_Bite View Post
                          Didn’t catch the race but looks like Ebasari was whacked… what were people’s thoughts?
                          In my opinion, he was deliberately never put into the race. The 40/1 now available with PP/Betfair is tempting
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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by On The Fringe View Post

                            In my opinion, he was deliberately never put into the race. The 40/1 now available with PP/Betfair is tempting
                            Would that fit the profile for Gordon's handicap horses do you think?

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Might_Bite View Post
                              Didn’t catch the race but looks like Ebasari was whacked… what were people’s thoughts?
                              That not every horse that doesn't win for Gordon Elliott automatically means they're a plot.

                              He'd want to be running again and showing a lot more next time to even be considered a festival handicap winner IMO.

                              I'd be amazed if he's Gordon's best dart for the Boodles after that run. Definitely wait until entered again before considering a bet, even at 40/1.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                                Would that fit the profile for Gordon's handicap horses do you think?
                                I feel there were a lot of similarities with how Britzka ran for GE a few weeks ago who looks like Boodles type too. I think he was pushed out to 33/1 immediately after the race and then clipped back into 16/1 over the week after.

                                GE has used that race for his Boodles horses before as per Saxons Diary. So I'd say at 40/1 I'd be happy to find out if this was deliberate by GE to keep handicap mark down (when he gets 3rd run).

                                I imagine he will go for the novice hurdle at Naas in February that Aramax and Band of Outlaws ran in prior to winning the Fred Winter / Boodles next.

                                If we could guarantee cash out would still be available with PP/Betfair by the time that race comes around I'd be all over that 40/1.

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