The BOODLES Fred Winter Juvenile Handicap Hurdle

[Outlaw]

Jazzy Matty looks to still be on 121, which I'm happy enough with.

127 UK mark it looks like.

[HoldenTheReins]

127 UK mark it looks like.

Written him off, looked poor and very one paced.

[Outlaw]

Written him off, looked poor and very one paced.

Not one I’m too fussed about just updating folk of UK mark on entry. The more I see horses getting rated 126-131 then see Scriptwriters mark I just think send him here & win it even thou he’s earned a Triumph entry.

[Kevloaf]

Jazzy Matty looks to still be on 121, which I'm happy enough with.

How are people still talking about Jazzy Matty




He was the 'smart' pick pre-season.

Get over it.


He won't be winning shit.





Beaten 6L by Comofrt Zone (decent for this)
Beaten 0.75L by Komedy Kicks (you've got to want to see it as a handicap plot)
Beaten 23L by Blood Destiny (you've got to really want to see it)
Beaten 3.75L by Sir Allen (You need to see a wonderful HC mark?)



What odds now?

[Hurricane fly]

Beaten 6L by Comofrt Zone (decent for this
beat Tekao 4 Lengths, gets a 7lb swing

Beaten 0.75L by Komedy Kicks (you've got to want to see it as a handicap plot)
Won the race giving weight away

Beaten 23L by Blood Destiny (you've got to really want to see it)
Heavy Ground, 4 lengths behind Nusret but a 7lb swing, also beat Morning Soldier 6 lengths giving 5lb away now have the same mark

Beaten 3.75L by Sir Allen (You need to see a wonderful HC mark?)
Is due an 11lb swing at the weights with SA


What odds now?

20/1 - but as short as 14s elsewhere

Admittedly I'm using Irish ratings as I can't find the Uk version, but logic would dictate the gaps in ratings would remain the same.

Elliot has won 2 of the last 5 along with 3 other top 4 finishes. The best training record in that period. From what I can see I think he is the shortest of Gordon's in the betting within that.

[Quevega]

Admittedly I'm using Irish ratings as I can't find the Uk version, but logic would dictate the gaps in ratings would remain the same.

Elliot has won 2 of the last 5 along with 3 other top 4 finishes. The best training record in that period. From what I can see I think he is the shortest of Gordon's in the betting within that.

Think he's been rated 127 UK for his Ascot entry on Saturday.

[Kevloaf]

Admittedly I'm using Irish ratings as I can't find the Uk version, but logic would dictate the gaps in ratings would remain the same.

Elliot has won 2 of the last 5 along with 3 other top 4 finishes. The best training record in that period. From what I can see I think he is the shortest of Gordon's in the betting within that.

Didn't realise he was 20s - assumed was about 5/1 haha.

I've had a bit on - ready to cash out when I take a proper look mind you

[Lbur4288]

Has anyone pointed out that Mctigue (136OR) has a Morebattle entry. Whilst I have thought he could be a Boodles runner (not necessarily the winner, that'd be mental so far out) after his peculiar run over in France - I do see a couple of parallels with The Shunter when he won the Morebattle and then the festival for the 100k bonus. Could lighting strike twice? Is it even on his mind or am I making an empty, albeit mild case from nothing?

[ComplyOrDie]

Has anyone pointed out that Mctigue (136OR) has a Morebattle entry. Whilst I have thought he could be a Boodles runner (not necessarily the winner, that'd be mental so far out) after his peculiar run over in France - I do see a couple of parallels with The Shunter when he won the Morebattle and then the festival for the 100k bonus. Could lighting strike twice? Is it even on his mind or am I making an empty, albeit mild case from nothing?

I saw this the other day. The 136 is his Irish rating though, I'm pretty sure he was entered up in England and was given 141 (I think). I wonder if they are seeing if his mark has come down much with the entry.

[Lbur4288]

I saw this the other day. The 136 is his Irish rating though, I'm pretty sure he was entered up in England and was given 141 (I think). I wonder if they are seeing if his mark has come down much with the entry.

Good point, totally forgot about UK tax. One to keep an eye on I guess either way.

[Outlaw]

Has anyone pointed out that Mctigue (136OR) has a Morebattle entry. Whilst I have thought he could be a Boodles runner (not necessarily the winner, that'd be mental so far out) after his peculiar run over in France - I do see a couple of parallels with The Shunter when he won the Morebattle and then the festival for the 100k bonus. Could lighting strike twice? Is it even on his mind or am I making an empty, albeit mild case from nothing?

Yeah posted it up on hand General thread, wasn’t aware of his mark but obvs gets the 10lb 4yo allowance in the Kelso race. Figured he’d be 133+ off the G2 win alone. Him going off 33s lto thou to be eligible to run in such hcaps makes you think given the trainer mind.

[Hurricane fly]

Didn't realise he was 20s - assumed was about 5/1 haha.

I've had a bit on - ready to cash out when I take a proper look mind you

Apology accepted

[Hurricane fly]

Think he's been rated 127 UK for his Ascot entry on Saturday.

And I think I've seen some of the others are due mid 130s so would suggest that it is inline with Irish ratings

[Quevega]

And I think I've seen some of the others are due mid 130s so would suggest that it is inline with Irish ratings

Yeah, just letting you know.

[Eggs]

…..trends time. Source Jessica Lamb 15.02.23.

LAST 10 years;

- Had not won a graded hurdle.
- Had never run at Cheltenham.
- Did not run in a H’cap last time out.
- Did not run in a Maiden Hrd last time (0/40).
- Had run in no more than 6 Hrd races.
- Had won no more that two races (only 1 was a maiden).
- Did not carry top weight (form figures; 00028F060).

LAST 9 YEARS;

- Last finished in first two no more than two runs ago.

8 OF THE LAST 10 WINNERS;

- Had run in a race that year.

KEY TRIALS;

- Adonis Juv just 1 winner on 0 placed in 10 years.
- Spring Juv 1 winner & 2 placed in 10 years.
- 4yo Hrd at Fairyhouse, GE tests his Boodles winners in. Jazzy Matty was his runner this year (Blood Destiny won).

TRAINER TRENDS;

- Nicholls 3 winners, 8 placed from just 24 runners in 10 years.
- Elliott 2 of the last 5 & 3 in all.
- Nick Williams 1 winner & a place from 8 runners.
- Henderson is 0/9 but has had 2 placed.
- Ireland has won last 5.

JOCKEY TRENDS;

Only Mark Walsh has won the race more than once in 10 years.

HOW DID THE TRENDS DO LAST YEAR;

Brasil was perfect on trends. He was the 3rd winner in 4 yrs to carry more than 11st 7lb, 8 of 11 before him carried no more than 11st 1lb.

WHO FITS THE TRENDS BEST IN 2023;

Gala Marceau is eye catching (Note, now won G1), JOB has a decent shout with Common Practice.