The BOODLES Fred Winter Juvenile Handicap Hurdle

[JackieMoon33]

The Tide Turns given a mark of 135 by the Irish handicapper.

Won’t his mark be issued tomorrow or is this a sneak peak?

[Fouroverthrutwo]

Won’t his mark be issued tomorrow or is this a sneak peak?

Checked the Racing Post and it appears correct according to https://www.hri-ras.ie/ihrb-handicap...l-nh-ratings/#

[Studfarm254]

Won’t his mark be issued tomorrow or is this a sneak peak?

There’s a few of the interesting ones with their Irish marks up now that I hadn’t noticed before

brazil 133
Lunar power 130
britzka 127
Iberique de seuil 124
white pepper 124
feigh 120

Not sure if these have been up for a while but 1st I’ve noticed them

[FinalFurlong91]

130 looks a nice rating for lunar power

[KevMc]

Nicholls has acquired Bell Ex One and running here fresh off a mark of 130. Not sure that mark is up to much but Nicholls could easily improve him quite a bit.

[Can't Catch Me]

There’s a few of the interesting ones with their Irish marks up now that I hadn’t noticed before

brazil 133
Lunar power 130
britzka 127
Iberique de seuil 124
white pepper 124
feigh 120

Not sure if these have been up for a while but 1st I’ve noticed them

Still no sign of a rating for Champion Green. Does anyone know why?

[Spectre]

Still no sign of a rating for Champion Green. Does anyone know why?

He hasn't been entered in a handicap and/or connections haven't asked for one.

[Can't Catch Me]

He hasn't been entered in a handicap and/or connections haven't asked for one.

So horses aren't automatically given a mark after 3 runs until they are entered? Genuinely never knew that. Cheers Spectre

[Redbridge]

He hasn't been entered in a handicap and/or connections haven't asked for one.

I have reached the age where I forget more than I know but today I have learned something

[DenmanSacre]

So horses aren't automatically given a mark after 3 runs until they are entered? Genuinely never knew that. Cheers Spectre

Yes it is odd. Some of Mullins that may go to handicaps haven't been given a mark after 3/4 runs. I don't think Teahupoo and Quilixios have marks either, despite running in enough races for a mark.

[Craigy14]

In Ireland they have to be entered or ask for one, UK are given a mark automatically.

[Splinterboy82]

What’s people’s thoughts on this Petit Tonnerre for JP in here? It’s being trained by Jonjo but has some serious form in France & has been given 135 after just 2 starts! Seems crazy high considering the UKs leading Triumph horse is Porticello & he’s only 140 after winning 4/5 inc a G1.

However, he runs at Market Rasen today in a 3 runner race against 2 horses rated 112 & 108!! Will give him the 3rd run required. If he looks average in winning against those will the capper drop him in line with this yrs policy? Just find him a very interesting dark one in here. Look, if he shits up by a distance he can’t put him up can he. 16/1 NRNB at present

[Kevloaf]

What’s people’s thoughts on this Petit Tonnerre for JP in here? It’s being trained by Jonjo but has some serious form in France & has been given 135 after just 2 starts! Seems crazy high considering the UKs leading Triumph horse is Porticello & he’s only 140 after winning 4/5 inc a G1.

However, he runs at Market Rasen today in a 3 runner race against 2 horses rated 112 & 108!! Will give him the 3rd run required. If he looks average in winning against those will the capper drop him in line with this yrs policy? Just find him a very interesting dark one in here. Look, if he shits up by a distance he can’t put him up can he. 16/1 NRNB at present

I got pointed to check out how Box Office was campaigned before going off fav.

Very interesting

[DenmanSacre]

What’s people’s thoughts on this Petit Tonnerre for JP in here? It’s being trained by Jonjo but has some serious form in France & has been given 135 after just 2 starts! Seems crazy high considering the UKs leading Triumph horse is Porticello & he’s only 140 after winning 4/5 inc a G1.

However, he runs at Market Rasen today in a 3 runner race against 2 horses rated 112 & 108!! Will give him the 3rd run required. If he looks average in winning against those will the capper drop him in line with this yrs policy? Just find him a very interesting dark one in here. Look, if he shits up by a distance he can’t put him up can he. 16/1 NRNB at present

I'd say more likely for the Triumph. JP has a number of horses who could come here who would be better handicapped.

[Splinterboy82]

I got pointed to check out how Box Office was campaigned before going off fav.

Very interesting

Ahh, good shout that. The way the capper has gone about his business this yr, I just wouldn’t want to call what he’ll do to his mark after today however he runs.