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The BOODLES Fred Winter Juvenile Handicap Hurdle

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  • Originally posted by DenmanSacre View Post
    Irish marks updated

    Doctor Churchill 127.

    Lunar Power 129.

    Lunar Power of 129 isn't too bad a mark for the form, albeit Gaelic Warrior is going to cruise in.
    That is a lovely weight for lunar power, had my eye on him knowing they couldn’t reverse with Fil Dor.

    Although is that just Irish rating? Like to think be couple lbs at least on top, but still.

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    • Pied Piper 144

      Fil Dor 141

      I guess, at a push, Fil Dor could have a claimer on top and still come here, but would find it highly unlikely now.

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      • Originally posted by Craigy14 View Post

        That is a lovely weight for lunar power, had my eye on him knowing they couldn’t reverse with Fil Dor.

        Although is that just Irish rating? Like to think be couple lbs at least on top, but still.
        Yes - 129 in Ireland. Tax likely to take him up to 133 I'd imagine

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        • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
          Pied Piper 144

          Fil Dor 141

          I guess, at a push, Fil Dor could have a claimer on top and still come here, but would find it highly unlikely now.
          Guess he'd get a couple more lb here so around 143 but Saint Sam was 2nd off 138 last year and Fil d'Or has achieved a lot more.

          Think he'd go triumph but not completely unthinkable.

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          • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post

            Guess he'd get a couple more lb here so around 143 but Saint Sam was 2nd off 138 last year and Fil d'Or has achieved a lot more.

            Think he'd go triumph but not completely unthinkable.
            Yeah, may happen. Jordan Gainford could take 3lbs off or Shane Fitzgerald could take 5lbs off so I guess there is a small possibility, should the owners wish to split their runners. Of course, they may not want to, which would be fair enough.

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            • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
              Pied Piper 144

              Fil Dor 141

              I guess, at a push, Fil Dor could have a claimer on top and still come here, but would find it highly unlikely now.
              With the emergence of Vauban, if I were the owners, I'd want both aimed here. Pied Piper looks the pure speed and quality horse to take on Vauban accordingly, but I still wouldn't dismiss Fil Dor. The Triumph can be a staying affair and that lad seems to stay.

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              • Champion Green and Ebasari both entered in the 4yo novice hurdle at Naas on Saturday. This race has previously been won by Band of Outlaws and Aramax on their way to winning the Fred Winter/Boodles at Cheltenham.

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                • Originally posted by On The Fringe View Post
                  Champion Green and Ebasari both entered in the 4yo novice hurdle at Naas on Saturday. This race has previously been won by Band of Outlaws and Aramax on their way to winning the Fred Winter/Boodles at Cheltenham.
                  The Tide Turns aswell. Would be the third run required for the Boodles for him.

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                  • Originally posted by Dandrew99 View Post

                    The Tide Turns aswell. Would be the third run required for the Boodles for him.
                    Can't imagine they planned that with The Tide Turns, to be out again a week later.

                    The other two, much more like a plan!

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                    • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post

                      With the emergence of Vauban, if I were the owners, I'd want both aimed here. Pied Piper looks the pure speed and quality horse to take on Vauban accordingly, but I still wouldn't dismiss Fil Dor. The Triumph can be a staying affair and that lad seems to stay.
                      Agree, FD does look the ultimate Triumph horse to me. Proper grinder/Stayer . The race is always run at a crazy pace which will suit him. It'll ge difficult for him to turn things around with the front two but it's still a possibility.

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                      • ….16-1 Lads/Coral still available for HMS Seahorse after that win.

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                        • Job done by Swinging London at Fakenham, shouldn't get much/any for it and on a nice mark (124).

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                          • Originally posted by Splinterboy82 View Post
                            Assuming this Gaelic Warrior is not already home & hosed as seems to be the feeling, a couple from my early long list run on Wed for 3rd time & thus their mark:

                            HMS Seahorse at Fairyhouse is so obvious having been beaten by the favs for the Triumph fto & G1 4th on 2nd run. Ideal profile for this assuming he wins easy on Wed.

                            The other is ex Irish Swinging London at Fakenham fto for Olly Murphy. Could be an interesting contender if getting in down the bottom.
                            Both won easy as expected & have ew chances for me.

                            Think the 16s HMS very fair if it wasn’t for this big Richie-Rich lurker at the head of the betting!

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                            • Originally posted by Splinterboy82 View Post

                              Both won easy as expected & have ew chances for me.

                              Think the 16s HMS very fair if it wasn’t for this big Richie-Rich lurker at the head of the betting!

                              ….into 12-1 now with Lads, 16-1 365 antepost.

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                              • Hms seahorse will have to seriously brush up on his jumping to have any chance

                                Did his best to throw the race away today clouting the last 3 hurdles

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