The CORAL CUP Handicap Hurdle

[Istabraq]

Old course being sharper with so many horses, not as much room? County starts on the long straight, pipe once round the bend is on the long straight as well, although the coral cup starts furlong back from the pipe.

Only thing I can think of, was his least favourite race as he also stated.

I'm sure it makes sense to someone.
In other news, Be Aware still 7/1....

[robith]

I thought that was an odd comment from Ruby, why would the County or Pipe be any less rough ?

Could be misremembering was that the coral vs the county are both run at breakneck pace, but in the coral, with slower horses

[Eggs]

Could be misremembering was that the coral vs the county are both run at breakneck pace, but in the coral, with slower horses

…I think he did say that, Rob. Said he hated riding in it more than any other festival race.

[Istabraq]

Could be misremembering was that the coral vs the county are both run at breakneck pace, but in the coral, with slower horses

For me the Coral Cup would be the lowest class race of the three so racing against better class opposition in the County can't be a positive can it ?
Chances are the ground on Friday will be the quickest of the week too, Kopeck will be put in conditions he won't have come close to seeing before, he may well prove to be up to it but we know he'll go off stupid short in a competitive race and he'll be no value.
As I said, Be Aware 7/1 has to be better value than a deep ground French horse at 3/1 in the most competitive 2m hurdle in the calendar...

[Craigy14]

Aye he said that as well this week on the PP preview. Constantly jumping into the back of horses etc and it being a rough race was what I remember him commenting on previously.

[darlojim]

For me the Coral Cup would be the lowest class race of the three so racing against better class opposition in the County can't be a positive can it ?
Chances are the ground on Friday will be the quickest of the week too, Kopeck will be put in conditions he won't have come close to seeing before, he may well prove to be up to it but we know he'll go off stupid short in a competitive race and he'll be no value.
As I said, Be Aware 7/1 has to be better value than a deep ground French horse at 3/1 in the most competitive 2m hurdle in the calendar...

But we got the value Ista

And is Be Aware a grade 1 horse

[Istabraq]

But we got the value Ista

And is Be Aware a grade 1 horse

7/1 is still value.
I might need to take the dogs out again or I'll just keep going...

[darlojim]

7/1 is still value.
I might need to take the dogs out again or I'll just keep going...

im on myself mate at 16s,big worry is whether he'll blow his lid running too keen. If he settles, hes a big player

[Istabraq]

im on myself mate at 16s

You've done very well there, not sure I ever saw 16s, 14s best I got.
Here's hoping....

[Quevega]

Aye he said that as well this week on the PP preview. Constantly jumping into the back of horses etc and it being a rough race was what I remember him commenting on previously.

Ruby is referring to the tighter nature of the Old course and where the hurdles are situated, particularly the second last, as this often leads to less time and space to get a position and can often mean jockeys are jostling a lot more.

[NeptuneByANose]

Quite like Beat The Bat (25/1) away from the top of the market, although I’m not sure if this is the plan. He’ll need a bit of luck to get in, too.

He has some nice Cheltenham form. Although Dysart Enos hasn’t advertised it brilliantly this year, he has run really well in some top handicaps over an inadequate trip.

There is a lot to like about his reappearance run, while 2m
round Windsor didn’t suit next time. Despite that, he plugged on nicely and then went to the now William Hill
hurdle to further advertise his need for a step up in trip.

Off the bridle a long way out, he was outpaced but stayed on up the long straight to finish 5th.

When finally faced with another half mile, I think he has a bit in hand off 133. He’d have a nice low weight if getting in, too. He’d have his chance.

[Quevega]

Been through this race this morning.
Only left with 2 in my team after declarations.
Be Aware & Comfort Zone, two of the more obvious ones in the lead up.

But as history suggests, you can get horses placed in this off decent prices.

I had Vischio in my team but cashed the other day. B365 only shifted prices from 14's to 16's after her run at Kelso. I saw some were going 25's so got out of it.
I will be re backing her at 25's as her Kelso run was actually eyecatching with a view to the Coral Cup IMO.

But the one that stood out today at the prices was Colonel Mustard (apologies if someone's already mentioned, as I've not checked through the thread)
I won;t go into chapter and verse but 33-1 6 places PP is value IMO.

His form this season stacks up nicely with runs close up to Lucky Place & Kitzbuhel. And he gets to run off 146 with a very good claimer taking off 5lb.
The price reflects the doubt over the trip, but at 10yr old now, and a horse that has often been campaigned for a handicap of this nature (i.e not always putting up his best) I think he's worth chancing.

[Faugheen_Machine]

Been through this race this morning.
Only left with 2 in my team after declarations.
Be Aware & Comfort Zone, two of the more obvious ones in the lead up.

But as history suggests, you can get horses placed in this off decent prices.

I had Vischio in my team but cashed the other day. B365 only shifted prices from 14's to 16's after her run at Kelso. I saw some were going 25's so got out of it.
I will be re backing her at 25's as her Kelso run was actually eyecatching with a view to the Coral Cup IMO.

But the one that stood out today at the prices was Colonel Mustard (apologies if someone's already mentioned, as I've not checked through the thread)
I won;t go into chapter and verse but 33-1 6 places PP is value IMO.

His form this season stacks up nicely with runs close up to Lucky Place & Kitzbuhel. And he gets to run off 146 with a very good claimer taking off 5lb.
The price reflects the doubt over the trip, but at 10yr old now, and a horse that has often been campaigned for a handicap of this nature (i.e not always putting up his best) I think he's worth chancing.

Glad I checked here as the last thing I did before setting off.

Roche taking off 5 is the decisive factor to me, as I think he's exceptional. Probably the best around in my view.

thanks Q.

#It leaves me with the same 3 as you have

[Burrough Hill Man]

Sandor Clegane here for me. Think the drop back in trip off a fast pace will be ideal for him.
The race tends to be kind to graded horses stepping down to h'caps.

[Yosser]

Glad i am on Bunting. He has been absolutely peppered in the last couple of hours. Almost fav