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The CORAL CUP Handicap Hurdle

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  • Originally posted by Redbridge View Post
    Martin Brassil and JJ Slevin teamed up with the unlucky Fastorslow in today's Ultima now they team up once more with the well backed An Epic Song in this.
    Very close, touched off by an head @ 16s

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    • Now we have Handicap Entries out, I am giving each of the 9 Handicap Threads a Bump

      Check out Post 1, Page 1 on each Handicap Thread

      Has the last 10 year stats for

      * winners,
      * placed horses,
      * ratings of all of those, and
      * lowest rating to get in each race


      Good luck

      PS: If you have any key stats you want me to add to Post 1 in the Handicaps, post on the thread, and I will copy them over to Post 1


      "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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      • 72 Early Entries in the Coral Cup at the 2024 Cheltenham Festival:​

        Listed here and on page 1, Post 1

        Angels Breath (IRE)
        Anna Bunina (FR)
        Anyharminasking (IRE)
        Bad (FR)
        Ballyadam (IRE)
        Beacon Edge (IRE)
        Benson
        Better Days Ahead (IRE)
        Black Bamboo (IRE)
        Blueking d'Oroux (FR)
        Brazil (IRE)
        Built By Ballymore (IRE)
        Call Me Lord (FR)
        Cleatus Poolaw
        Cobblers Dream (IRE)
        Cuthbert Dibble (IRE)
        Da Capo Glory (IRE)
        Doddiethegreat (IRE)
        Encanto Bruno (IRE)
        Finest Evermore (IRE)
        First Street
        Franciscan Rock (IRE)
        Get A Tonic (IRE)
        Guard Your Dreams
        Hiddenvalley Lake (IRE)
        Hispanic Moon (FR)
        Hollow Games (IRE)
        Jay Jay Reilly (IRE)
        Jeff Kidder (IRE)
        Jigoro (FR)
        King Alexander (IRE)
        Langer Dan (IRE)
        Lombron (FR)
        Lucky Place (FR)
        Magic Tricks (FR)
        Making Headway (IRE)
        Mark of Gold
        Maxxum (IRE)
        Might I (IRE)
        Moon D'Orange (FR)
        Mothill (IRE)
        No Ordinary Joe (IRE)
        Nurse Susan (FR)
        Nusret
        Ocastle des Mottes (FR)
        Party Central (IRE)
        Petit Tonnerre (FR)
        Prairie Dancer (IRE)
        Presentandcounting (IRE)
        Quai de Bourbon (FR)
        Rambo T (IRE)
        Sa Majeste (FR)
        Samui
        Seddon (IRE)
        Sequestered (IRE)
        Shanbally Kid (IRE)
        Shecouldbeanything (IRE)
        Sonigino (FR)
        Spirit d'Aunou (FR)
        Springwell Bay
        Supreme Gift (IRE)
        Tactical Affair (FR)
        The Tide Turns
        The Wallpark (IRE)
        Theatre Glory (IRE)
        Thedevilscoachman (IRE)
        Walking On Air (IRE)
        West To The Bridge (IRE)
        Western Fold (IRE)
        What's Up Darling (IRE)
        Yeats Star (IRE)
        Zanndabad (IRE)










        "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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        • …..2023 trend analysis for reference;

          LAST 10 WINNERS;

          - Had never won the Coral before.
          - Had not won more than 2 H’cap Hrd.
          - Had won at least 2 Hrd races but not more than 4.
          - Were not carrying top weight.
          - Were rated 138+, seven rated 143+, three rated 151+.
          - Last run over hurdles at least 22 days ago.

          9 OF THE LAST 10 WINNERS;

          - Had never won a G1 (exception COF).
          - Had never won a G2 (Bleu Berry).
          - Had won at least once in their last 3 starts (COF).
          - Were not Fav (Dame de Compagnie).
          - Had never won a chase (DDC).
          - Had run at least 5 times over hurdles (Aux Ptit Soins).
          - Had run over at least 2m 4f before (APS).
          - Had only won once that season, if at all (HHU).

          8 OF THE LAST 10 WINNERS;

          - Carried at least 6lb less than top weight.
          - Had already run at Chelt (4 had won).

          KEY TRIALS;

          - 3 runners from Betfair Hrd have been placed here in the same year. No horse has won both.
          - Bleu Berry ran in the Liffey at Leop, Thosedaysaregone & Fastorslow placed in Coral after running there.
          - DDC & HHU won after contesting a Mares Hurdle.
          - COF & Supasundae ran in the Boyne before winning the Coral.

          TRAINER TRENDS;

          - Henderson best with 4 winners, inc 2 of the last 4.
          - Elliott won 3 with 5 placed.
          - Mullins 1 winner, 6 placed.
          - Nicholls is 1/13.
          - Ireland have won 5 of the last 7, only Nicholls & Hendo have won for GB in 9 years.

          JOCKEY TRENDS;

          - Russell is tops with 3 winners. Nico de B 2 winners.​

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          • Hiddenvalley Lake hitting a lot of the trends.

            Just need to hope the UK tax isn’t bad and with the Irish capper putting him up 10lbs for his last win I’m hoping couple lbs

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            • Trends added to Post 1, Page 1 Eggs
              "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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              • ….Henderson re No Ordinary Joe;

                He would be in the Coral Cup, he finished second in the Martin Pipe last year. He schooled this morning and is in good form. It would probably be helped by spring ground.

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                • Originally posted by Craigy14 View Post
                  Hiddenvalley Lake hitting a lot of the trends.

                  Just need to hope the UK tax isn’t bad and with the Irish capper putting him up 10lbs for his last win I’m hoping couple lbs
                  Henry been winning some big handicaps recently too…not his normal thing

                  I’ve backed, so like u hoping not too much tax
                  Fat Jockey Patron (est. Jan 2021)

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                  • Originally posted by TigerRolllllll View Post

                    Henry been winning some big handicaps recently too…not his normal thing

                    I’ve backed, so like u hoping not too much tax
                    Aye fingers crossed Tiger! He was given a hefty rise by the Irish capper but at the same time did win fairly cosily!

                    2 or 3lbs and I wouldn’t be too disheartened. Anymore than that and it would be a big ask. I think he’s still pretty unexposed so could be a proper graded staying hurdler.

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                    • Originally posted by Eggs View Post
                      ….Henderson re No Ordinary Joe;

                      He would be in the Coral Cup, he finished second in the Martin Pipe last year. He schooled this morning and is in good form. It would probably be helped by spring ground.
                      Was never put in the race yesterday, when the pilot did ask he picked up well.
                      Was 140, beat 5l, mark will likely stay unchanged, one of the more likely ones for sure...

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                      • For the Coral Cup or MP? He's in both. Based on last year's 2nd I assumed he'd have another crack at the Pipe but the Hendo quote only mentions the Coral Cup.

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                        • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post
                          For the Coral Cup or MP? He's in both. Based on last year's 2nd I assumed he'd have another crack at the Pipe but the Hendo quote only mentions the Coral Cup.
                          I'd say the Coral Cup, think it's an easier race to win, always a danger there are good ones lurking in the M Pipe...

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                          • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

                            I'd say the Coral Cup, think it's an easier race to win, always a danger there are good ones lurking in the M Pipe...
                            Might hinge on Sa Majeste's mark ?

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                            • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post
                              For the Coral Cup or MP? He's in both. Based on last year's 2nd I assumed he'd have another crack at the Pipe but the Hendo quote only mentions the Coral Cup.
                              He loves a Coral Cup runner. Great record in the race. Not so the Pipe. Has he ever won it ??

                              Just checked.....win the very first running but zilch since.

                              Coral Cup all day long.
                              Last edited by Lobos; 25 February 2024, 09:12 AM.

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                              • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                                He loves a Coral Cup runner. Great record in the race. Not so the Pipe. Has he ever won it ??
                                Don't think he'll have the choice.

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