The CORAL CUP Handicap Hurdle

[Brooksie]

Yep I'm all over Fil Dor for this, they tried him as their Arkle horse because Potter was all but booked for the turners from an early stage, he's always looked like he wanted further and he has that touch of grade 1 class the others probably lack. 16/1 I'll take a bit of that.

[DenmanSacre]

Ben Harvey on Fil Dor on the BHA site. 5 pound claim.

[Eggs]

Ben Harvey on Fil Dor on the BHA site. 5 pound claim.

….reported he’s also riding Anna Bunina in the County. He has had a winner at Cheltenham (I think in a XC race).

[Eggs]

….’Win Today & Coral Cup’ roll-overs;

Benson @ 250-1
Beacon Edge @ 100-1
Sa Fureur @ 25-1
Fil Dor @ 20-1

[opatcho]

This race as a weird trend -> horses that are reverting back to Hurdle do well in this, main focus on those that ran in graded races at the fez the previous year... or have ran in a big handicap at Cheltenham during the season


2022 - Commander Of Fleet - Ex-Chaser, 1 run
2021 - Heaven Help Us - chaser reverted back to hurdles
2020 - Dame De Comp - chaser reverted back to hurdles
2019 - William Henry - chaser reverted back to hurdles
2018 - Blue Berry won, but Ballyandy was close 3rd by half a length - chaser reverted back to hurdles
2017 - Supasundae won, but Taquin Du Seuil was second, chaser reverted back to hurdles
2016 - Diamond King won, but Long House Hall was second, chaser reverted back to hurdles
2015 - None
2014 - None

Based on this 'weird' trend, the following could be of interest. Ideally want a horse in their second season

Fil Dor
Camprond
Grand Roi
Beacons Edge
Saint Sam
Sporting John

*could be others, havent looked in detail

Liking Fil Dor at the moment despite the weight for a 5 year old, then again - he's had to lump that around with him over fences for most of the season
We havent got anything from last years Supreme, Ballymore and AB. That Triumph was strong last year.
Not a fan of backing 5 years olds in open company, but this lad has put up some good performance already this season over fences. Good win after hurdles last time out, could improve for the step up in trip.

Camprond looks to be well handicapped on previous form, similar with Langer Dan. However, how much do I trust Hobbs to get one fit. Dan, more likely to pull it off.

Anyway... just sharing

[That Horse]

Liking Fil Dor at the moment despite the weight for a 5 year old, then again - he's had to lump that around with him over fences for most of the season
We havent got anything from last years Supreme, Ballymore and AB. That Triumph was strong last year.
Not a fan of backing 5 years olds in open company, but this lad has put up some good performance already this season over fences. Good win after hurdles last time out, could improve for the step up in trip.

Camprond looks to be well handicapped on previous form, similar with Langer Dan. However, how much do I trust Hobbs to get one fit. Dan, more likely to pull it off.

Anyway... just sharing

Focusing on Gordon for handicap hurdles is my main thought this year. So Fil Dor must be on the team.

[Eggs]

….very useful. I haven’t noticed Saint Sam running here opatcho

[FinalFurlong91]

This race as a weird trend -> horses that are reverting back to Hurdle do well in this, main focus on those that ran in graded races at the fez the previous year... or have ran in a big handicap at Cheltenham during the season


2022 - Commander Of Fleet - Ex-Chaser, 1 run
2021 - Heaven Help Us - chaser reverted back to hurdles
2020 - Dame De Comp - chaser reverted back to hurdles
2019 - William Henry - chaser reverted back to hurdles
2018 - Blue Berry won, but Ballyandy was close 3rd by half a length - chaser reverted back to hurdles
2017 - Supasundae won, but Taquin Du Seuil was second, chaser reverted back to hurdles
2016 - Diamond King won, but Long House Hall was second, chaser reverted back to hurdles
2015 - None
2014 - None

Based on this 'weird' trend, the following could be of interest. Ideally want a horse in their second season

Fil Dor
Camprond
Grand Roi
Beacons Edge
Saint Sam
Sporting John

*could be others, havent looked in detail

Liking Fil Dor at the moment despite the weight for a 5 year old, then again - he's had to lump that around with him over fences for most of the season
We havent got anything from last years Supreme, Ballymore and AB. That Triumph was strong last year.
Not a fan of backing 5 years olds in open company, but this lad has put up some good performance already this season over fences. Good win after hurdles last time out, could improve for the step up in trip.

Camprond looks to be well handicapped on previous form, similar with Langer Dan. However, how much do I trust Hobbs to get one fit. Dan, more likely to pull it off.

Anyway... just sharing

Camprond will need good ground

Very interesting if it dries out

[Altior]

Is Captain Conby going here?

[Kevloaf]

Is Captain Conby going here?

Yes. Keith Donoghue on board

[DenmanSacre]

Didn't really want to even look at this race as my record is atrocious.

It seems to favour the classier horses nowadays and the Irish will be the best of the hurdlers for me.

Which of these could I see in a grade 1 or 2 hurdle race next time and run a decent race over 2m4 or 3m:

Fil Dor Beacons Edge
HMS Seahorse
Run for Oscar
Icare Allen

That's me done with this race unless there's any Irish horses I've missed. I'll do various forecasts with them all and see how I get on!

[Kevloaf]

Didn't really want to even look at this race as my record is atrocious.

It seems to favour the classier horses nowadays and the Irish will be the best of the hurdlers for me.

Which of these could I see in a grade 1 or 2 hurdle race next time and run a decent race over 2m4 or 3m:

Fil Dor Beacons Edge
HMS Seahorse
Run for Oscar
Icare Allen

That's me done with this race unless there's any Irish horses I've missed. I'll do various forecasts with them all and see how I get on!

I did consider forecasts / tricasts with the Irish horses that are claiming .... not sure what shortlist that would leave but will give it some more thought

[JackieMoon33]

Focusing on Gordon for handicap hurdles is my main thought this year. So Fil Dor must be on the team.

I did that last year and planned my retirement. It ended badly and I hate my job.

[That Horse]

I did that last year and planned my retirement. It ended badly and I hate my job.

Obviously, a year too early Jackie...

In saying that, I've sat down for the past hour and a half and looked at his Boodles runners. My head hurts and I'm none the wiser

[charlie]

Focusing on Gordon for handicap hurdles is my main thought this year. So Fil Dor must be on the team.

Both of Caldwell Construction's are interesting in here. Presumably Davy not on Fil D'or because Gordon wants to claim 5, which is smart. I think FD has a massive chance if he stays.