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The CORAL CUP Handicap Hurdle

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  • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

    Had a look at her the other day and I think she had an Irish rating of exactly 145 going into last years Mares hurdle where, as we know, she was running all over them when brought down so it's possible the UK handicapper pitches her upper 140s.
    That's not to say she can't win off that mark but it would make it tougher.
    I'd say it's still a very short price she heads for the Mares even if that means a clash with Honey (should she make it)...
    I think the 145 rating was UK, but not certain.
    Obviously since then she fell and was brought down in punchestown (rated 142) which I think was her Irish mark.
    I'd say they won't want her running against Honeysuckle myself.

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    • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
      I wonder if Tellmesomethinggirl might run here now, given Honeysuckle going for the mares.
      Should be rated lower than 145, and I'd say that may underestimate her.
      Is she even ok ? Not heard a peep about her.

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      • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

        Had a look at her the other day and I think she had an Irish rating of exactly 145 going into last years Mares hurdle where, as we know, she was running all over them when brought down so it's possible the UK handicapper pitches her upper 140s.
        That's not to say she can't win off that mark but it would make it tougher.
        I'd say it's still a very short price she heads for the Mares even if that means a clash with Honey (should she make it)...
        145 was her uk rating when running in the mares hurdle last year.
        you'd find it hard to make a case she should be higher rated.

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        • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
          I'd say they won't want her running against Honeysuckle myself.
          You could well be right, but I'm not convinced Honeysuckle makes Cheltenham, if she's regressed sufficiently not to defend her Champion Hurdle crown then a G1 race against possibly the best Mares renewal we've seen of the race off levels won't be much easier...

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          • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

            You could well be right, but I'm not convinced Honeysuckle makes Cheltenham, if she's regressed sufficiently not to defend her Champion Hurdle crown then a G1 race against possibly the best Mares renewal we've seen of the race off levels won't be much easier...
            I agree it won't be easy and won't be backing her, but that's not going to stop them running her by the sounds of it (only fitness/injury will)

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            • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
              I wonder if Tellmesomethinggirl might run here now, given Honeysuckle going for the mares.
              Should be rated lower than 145, and I'd say that may underestimate her.
              1 more over fences and go from there is the plan Q

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              • Originally posted by darlojim View Post

                1 more over fences and go from there is the plan Q
                She'd better hurry up then ! At least Instit franked the form a little the other day.

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                • Originally posted by darlojim View Post

                  1 more over fences and go from there is the plan Q
                  Where did you get this info from darlo??

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                  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                    Where did you get this info from darlo??
                    Molony on Twitter - https://twitter.com/Pmolony1Peter/st...61840341508098

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                    • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

                      You could well be right, but I'm not convinced Honeysuckle makes Cheltenham, if she's regressed sufficiently not to defend her Champion Hurdle crown then a G1 race against possibly the best Mares renewal we've seen of the race off levels won't be much easier...
                      I've seen a lot of people say she has regressed but I don't think that is the case at all.I think she's been running at the same level as in previous years but this year is coming up against better opposition. She's beaten Ronald Pump twice in the Hattons Grace who I think Teaupoo and Klassical Dream would have easily beaten and then this year at the DRF, she's beaten Zanahyr again but State Man is just better than her.

                      I think she'll easily win the mares if she turns up. None of the main market leaders can run to anywhere near her imo.

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                      • Originally posted by RoadToCheltenham View Post
                        Thanks. Doesn't sound from that like she'll be coming across.

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                        • Have backed No Ordinary Joe for this, so interested to see how he goes in the Betfair Hurdle today. Staying on strongly into 3rd or 4th would do nicely I think.

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                          • ​Theatre Glory would've of won this had her mark not of been fucked today. If only JP owned her

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                            • Originally posted by HoldenTheReins View Post
                              ​Theatre Glory would've of won this had her mark not of been fucked today. If only JP owned her
                              I'm thinking the same... Could she get away with an 8/9lb rise and still win this? Or is that wishful thinking?

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                              • Originally posted by Speedy17 View Post

                                I'm thinking the same... Could she get away with an 8/9lb rise and still win this? Or is that wishful thinking?
                                Nah, will get supplemented for the Mares Novice race and probably means Maries Rock goes Stayers with Epatante going also.

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